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Berserk OR Impact

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by AliceYvne, Jul 2, 2018.

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Which is your choice ?

Poll closed Jul 5, 2018.
  1. Berserk LVL10

    1 vote(s)
    14.3%
  2. Impact LVL7

    4 vote(s)
    57.1%
  3. Don't need

    2 vote(s)
    28.6%
  1. Isra

    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    i dEMaNd An exPLAnAtioN
     
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  2. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    He is too hip to use rampage on 2h so not that useful for him.
     
  3. ugliest

    ugliest Well-Known Member

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    The irony of this is that you have 'woosh mothafka' in your signature.

    You don't sound like a very bright player, so I'm going to explain it to you slowly (so make sure you read slowly)

    At the higher level, with increasing crit resistance + high evade bosses, 100% crit on gear and stats isn't going to cut it. A lot of the times, you will be missing final hits on combos dealing 0 damage. To prevent that, it's better to increase your crit using berserk as a knuck. Though you will be hitting with less stability, you can guarantee your hits wont miss and you can comfortably generate MP as well. Impact is only useful if you can land your hits.

    Impact also has a bad side effect of tumbling and being AOE. Since brawler is close range, if the boss is anti-tumble, then you are screwed. Of course you can create a combo that casts everything far away to alleviate that. If you're fighting mini bosses, you can potentially draw unnecessary aggro to mobs.

    As for using finale as a combo ender, the fact that you won't need to cast it saves you animation time on mobility (but you obviously didn't get that)


    And at the end of the day, if anyone wants to make a mage because they aren't hitting due to lack of crit, there's nothing wrong with that.
     
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  4. Hilmy

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    I think ur comment good for ohs Fu or swordman. But, if that's not good choice for char thats not use sword in his/her equip
     
  5. AliceYvne

    AliceYvne Elite Member Elite Member

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    I agree with your point because this is the reason why previously i choose berserk. But I start have doubt when I play around with Don Yeti. My Rush damage before Berserk is about 12K-14K per hit, Stability is 99%. With Berserk My stability drop to 49% and most of the damage of rush is about 6K-9K Per hit, sometime It's only 9K/hit till end of battle.

    Yup latest boss may have Cri Resistant but the most difficulty face by brawler is the Ailment Counter/Resistant and Evasion, Boss with Ailment Counter/Resistant basically is a nightmare for a brawler and Anticipate is the only one can counter Evasion right now. From another point of view Berserk is good on this kind of boss because With Berserk = LVL5 Warcry, just replace the Smash to Holy Fist and mix with warcry,rush or chariot can easy form a none ailment combo, Impact cant do this well.

    I not going to reject anyone comment, that is why I include [Don't Need] in the Vote options. Hope everyone can discuss peacefully.
     
  6. Isra

    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    My rebuttal is simply you take my act of humor as a mark of intelligence. I am by no means saying I'm a genius, as I am quite fallible, but since you really wanna go, fight me kid.
    I fully understand literally every bit of that. The thing is that if I have resources I find reason to use them.If I have a pile of skills rotting on the dashboard I'm going to use them. Such as the list of gems they have.
    If you have a buff like Berserk to kill your already pisspoor damage by all means go ahead, but I wouldn't worry about the range of impact on a class that's literally made for interrupting (you know two reasons that Brawlers are dead nearly; their lackluster damage and their overwhelming amount of skills that interrupt)
    I for one would consider impact due to its lowering of next skill MP, allowing for a more speed and ampr focused build as you can throw on a Death Colon and run single MP combos for your entire life. The speed buff of berserk is damn near wasted on something that can already load up over 6k Aspd without breaking as much as a sweat. The Crit effect is the only thing you have going for the skill which isn't all that considering Ornlarf (you know the new Boss) has Crit resist yes, but also high evasion which as you should know nullifies the usefulness of Crit. If you really want to get around that trend run Anticipate gears and be happy. Or run a mage which is a sad option because we actually want a shard of diversity in this game.For me, personally, save the little bit of damage you can do, run Impact because if you're mini-boss farming chances are you're designated interrupter or tank, giving impact the use that's so desired for it. If you hit a bunch of mini mobs, your team should know how to clean-up with a Finale because we all know this ain't Toram it's Finale online. If it's an anti whatever boss, modify combo or say yolo because honestly no flinch teams can suck my ass. Im tryna get as much exp as possible better start tapping fools
     
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  7. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Oh i use rampage:p but with all this extra ampr i dnt wanna rely on impact and i really dnt like berserk, and were only gunna be getting more ampr in the future, and need sp too, for 2 new trees and double attack, plus buster is 3mp so im not using any more mp than if i were to use impact
     
  8. PauPauPau

    PauPauPau Well-Known Member

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    never even think about touching berserk if you are a dps and not a blade user. people who say - 50% stability is better does not know how horrible it is. this will just break your build. chances are the crit will also be a graze with the target having high dodge which will lower down stability again.

    120% crit seems reliable now based on experience and it can easily be achieved without berserk.

    tested 150% crit on ornlarf and i never see whites.
     
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  9. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Just get meikyo lvl10 if dealing with crit resist. Less def drop than berserk, more crit and -5% cd not as worse as -50% stability. More duration as well if you want to use with auto attacks. :)
    All this debate over 2 completely different skills is pointless
     
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    -Dont use berserk if you're not using 1h or 2h
    -meikyo better but still i prefer %100 crit and impact chariot
    -less mp+a bit lower dmg+better spam skill in my mind
     
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    my stupid build
    knuck base stability 90% ( machitiar xtal + 5%) (twohanded monfu skill + 5% stability + 5% crit) = 100% stability

    combo :
    sonic wave - chariot save - shell break cons - raikiri cons - impact cons - rush smith - finale smith.

    batter use impact
     
  12. mekp

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    Regarding berserk or impact. Impact is better, its universal. And for berserk, you will lose your def and mdef. Lets say you dont have power wave. Fighting a close range with high lvl boss will made you less to survive. If you still want to use berserk , go get gloria skill. thats skill will give back your def and mdef. Good luck.
     
  13. Revan 2693

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    Unless you have a really good manna, finale wouldn't even cast though. It will end with "not enough mp"
     
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    yes, when i saw theres two smited. Dang, i quickly when to edit mode. My apologize.
     
  15. Ru°

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    finale just for stop the combo. not for use

    some note :
    all my build fill crit stat to get 100% crit need then the rest. for the main wepon damage stat.
     
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  16. AliceYvne

    AliceYvne Elite Member Elite Member

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    ...in fact I using LVl10 Reflex Stargem right now...to overcome to weak def/mdef problem, my HP now is 10k+ with Vita3(+1500)
     
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    AliceYvne Elite Member Elite Member

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    Becareful when you using mana potion...
     
  18. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    Being a fan of 100mp long ass combo, I don't think she'll ever use mana potion. ^_^
     
  19. dongocanh.ntp

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    I've just read post and don't understand about this. Can someone explain to me? What is CRI resistant?- meaning 100 crit but you still cannot do crit atk?
     
  20. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    Ye, critical resistance reduces your critical rate. I.e. a boss has crit resistance of 50%, thus halving your overall crate in the process. ^_^
     

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