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Bowgun or Bow for a pure sniper?

Discussion in 'Hunter' started by Pontaa, Nov 3, 2017.

  1. joibilog

    joibilog Well-Known Member

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    Tested out anniv bow +B and fusee +B on grylle. Same stats on both weapons. Atk7% cd4% crit13 cd13. Dex str build. Meikyo snipe combo. 150-158k crit on bow. 140-240k crit on bg. Bg even hit a 140k non-crit.

    Meikyo bg aint bad.

    Edit: combo(1mp)
    Moeba>smoke(save)>para(cons)>warcry(cons)>meikyo(cons)>snipe(smite)>sneak(cons)
     
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  2. Craxynutz

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    Hello everyone!
    If I were to use bg and use meikyo>snipe combo, would the +40 crit rate from meikyo affected by the 25% reduction of crit rate for snipe?
    I understand that the calculation for crit rate is: -
    Total crit rate = (25 + CRT/3.4) * (1 + Crit rate%/100) + flat crit rate stat;
    but I am confused whether the 25% reduction is on the total crit rate or only on the crit rate%.
    Appreciate anyone's explanation on this.
     
  3. joibilog

    joibilog Well-Known Member

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    I think it is affected by the reduction. But im not sure. Gonna test it some other day. I forgot what gear has -25 crit. Gonna test it that way to remove the 25 initial crit.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Its on total crit rate so yes it does.
     
  5. Craxynutz

    Craxynutz Well-Known Member

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    That's too sad. Thank you, mayam.
     
  6. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Not that bad honestly. Its still +30 flat crit for snipe direct. Meaning you can 100% crit snipe without adding too much CRT or other crit equipment which would make your regular skills critical rate go above 100%.
    Honestly tho I felt like my sp was wasted here coz if next skill is stronger than snipe and no crit reduction it would be meaningless
     
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  7. Craxynutz

    Craxynutz Well-Known Member

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    If the penalty is based on the total crit rate, I will have to get a total of 134 crit rate without CRT in order to score 100% crit for bg snipe. Dunno how to pull it off because the calculation I made based on a build I could think off could only reach as much as 120%, which translates to a 90% after the penalty for bg snipe.
    Also, what is the new skill for bow/bg? Could it supplant snipe for damage dealing skill?
     
  8. Fernost

    Fernost Well-Known Member

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    i think u can get 100%crit on bg+meikyo with nowdays equip.

    weapon full crits +15
    armor full crit +15
    add goth+proto
    special bexiz

    crit up skill
    meikyo

    (25*1.3)+15+15+15+8+5+5+40=135(101%)
     
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    Lenwok Elite Member Elite Member

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    This is true. It gets easier if you have stat points invested in CRIT. Mine has 75 CRIT so even with +11 & +13 custom gears (i'm poor lol), i can lose the Gothic Hat yet still achieve 134% (meikyo) snipe.
     
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    Fernost Well-Known Member

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    no the example i have dont have stat invest on CRT stat. but still to get the 100% snipe on bg need update equip & expensive xtal.
     
  11. Craxynutz

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    So, I will have to go back using goth hat and bexiz then. I was thinking of getting a max CDMG possible by using eyepatch cat and some STR boosting eq/xtals.
    I guess even Toram won't give you the best of both worlds (high crit and high cdmg).
    Thank you for the eq list, Fernost!
     
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  12. Fernost

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    welcome bro
     
  13. joibilog

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    Not really a waste since if a better skill comes out, you meikyo that and ditch the goth(proto) for atk or cdmg gears. :)
     
  14. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    I at first thought of using it as a bg tank. Musket + vulcan + meikyo + 100% crit using resistance armor and add gear but now I am curious of how much crit rate berserk skill gives if it can replace meikyo or not.
     
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