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Brawler's Grim Future...

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Flaneur, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. Deuteragonist

    Deuteragonist Well-Known Member

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    Well, mages just got a bunch of elemented staffs for the most part, none of them were particularly good, but demon's gate xtal is obviously a winner. And mages didn't have a good mage armor for a really long time, now I guess parm can be statted for mages.
     
  2. F1R3D0G

    F1R3D0G Well-Known Member

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    @genesic123 Why are you hating on a class that has the worst of everything. You're just adding insult to our injury. Unless you have something constructive to say, go away and take your negative opinions elsewhere. BTW you're necro-posting.
     
  3. F1R3D0G

    F1R3D0G Well-Known Member

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    That doesn't make any sense or follow any canon with what you've said. If you want to make a difference, do something about it. Complaints are useless.
     
  4. NineArts

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    just my observations on the current state of this class:

    Dinosaur Class: Brawler. because it's extinct. LOL.

    I've noticed that a lower base attack dual wielder hits harder than a higher base attack brawler.. which is unfair? LOL. life is normally unfair as well.

    the only PROs a brawler can have is it's defense debuff (shell break) and attack debuff (heavy smash, Lv.70), as well as it's fast mp regen, and maneuverability
    (example, while you are doing normal attacks to regen mp, you can just run away from aoe attacks. compare that to a dual wield with a rooted normal attack).

    currently the best skill i noticed since this update (Lv.70) is the Triple Kick. it always Crits (at max level) and hits 2k+, 3 times.

    from my tests, the only viable builds for this class would be;

    Full Agi (dodge tank)
    Semi Crit - Agi (dps breaker tank)
    (i would like to add in full evasion, but i've noticed as the higher level bosses are, the more eva you need which is impossible, full eva is only worth it if you can evade all attacks, but it never really happens, there's a cap).

    with how everything is set on brawlers, it's a class that dishes out consistent average damage over time with positional flexibility.

    comparing brawler to high burst dps classes; brawlers will lose.

    they have their own gameplay. it's survivability (tank role) and making sure you control the boss (breaker role + debuffer) to let your party mates do the damaging.
     
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  5. F1R3D0G

    F1R3D0G Well-Known Member

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    I was thinking along similar lines, maybe an AGI/VIT build since we are destined to become tanks. Thanks for doing some testing (6k+ skill is pretty nice, but nowhere near 115k sniper shot).
     
  6. badwolf

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    A level 70 skill doing 2k+ x3 is... all sorts of depressing.

    I honestly considered dual wield to be the final straw. Upside there though, brawlers can use their reflex skill :)

    I still consider myself a brawler. But I'll carry a gun from here on out
     
  7. NineArts

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    i agree guys, UNLESS brawlers would have some sort of Asura Strike skill (from old school Ragnarok) then that would be a game changing event :D
     
  8. h0tcak3s

    h0tcak3s i want a pet beluga

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    i was honestly hoping for a berserker skill, or a vamp skill that leeches off of hp but sadly no. im glad u tested out the skills tho, i was alr pretty beat up w disappointment lmao
     
  9. NineArts

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    hmm, i just noticed, there was a maintenance a few hours ago, http://blog.toram.jp/2015/4825/
    it mentioned;
    • The issue on the damage of Skill: Triple Kick.
    it will be bad if those kicks were nerfed, had my test data about them last night. :oops:
     
  10. badwolf

    badwolf Well-Known Member

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    Those kicks are already packed in child safe foam. Hopefully they'll take the nerf off and let brawlers play with the big boys
     
  11. arthu

    arthu Well-Known Member

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    Is this class dead? Just got kicked from PT to let a 2nd sniper in.
     
  12. blind light

    blind light Well-Known Member

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    did anyone check the dagger skill tree? i think heavy smash and 3ple kick can be a good combo skill.

    smash>sonic wave>bash or 3ple kick>shell break>heavy smash
     
  13. Cypherian

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    in a lighter note, dagger skills got buffed and you can now make a dps brawler. aa reliant and dagger reliant
     
  14. skysky

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    Which skills got buffed?
     
  15. CrimsonPhoenix

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    I've been experimenting with a full AGI Dual Wield as an alt to my brawler char. Except for weapons, they use the same gear (including light armor and light armor mastery). I also picked up the knuckles skill tree and actively use bash, smash and sonic (no shell break yet). Has all the PROs you list above. But you're right, if you don't keep moving around, you tend to get nailed by the aoe since you are usually stuck in your attack animation. So far that is the only con, and it is still very fun to play. Torn between which one of them to use as my main right now.
     

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