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Cleric build: The way of the support

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Jaeyson, Nov 28, 2018.

  1. XDuskX

    XDuskX Well-Known Member

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    I stopped playing I think when cap was lv300 or lv320ish. I left off at probably 258 or 259 on my bishop, so its been a while. I still log in from time to time but I haven't been motivated to play as much XD Idk what level judgment is but it rings a bell so it may have been mentioned in the "news" area before I stopped playing. I wish they had implemented bright heal sooner though, a debuff remover was needed.
     
  2. Jaeyson

    Jaeyson Well-Known Member

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    I put this to the test for days.... and my last battle confirms it

    My heal right now is 5.5k......

    Theres a few partymates of mine who are near death and I healed him in one go.

    If my heal depends on their max hp and not mine, that should not healed him completely....

    ..... maybe it was updated to be like that and what you remember was like 4 updates ago or something.... try healing someone again..... test it on a halberd user (i heard they like to keep their hp at 1)

    Maybe I'm wrong, I'll check it again.


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    Update:

    Gloria is useful....... it is now maxed to 10, no longer optional

    Saves the lives of glass builds.
     
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    I have used heal on tanks, glass cannon dps's, regular dps's and myself. The ones that appear to heal completely are the non tanky ones as it heals 3k + 20% of the hp of the target, most rarely have 8~9k hp. If the target has 9kish HP and they have approximately half when you use heal, that's a heal of approx 4.8k which is just over half their HP. Added a good bless ticking in the background and it looks like a heal may be based on your own HP if you have high hp and heal someone who generally is not tanky or uses very little vit stat. And remember, just about everyone uses HP potions as well. Sometimes it looks like our heal restores a larger amount as it looks like both the heal and potion register at the same time as well.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Gloria only gives like 6% more damage reduction to players that already have 250 def/mdef which a lot of so called glass cannons do if they are using high def armor instead of adv garb. That for a measly 30 second duration does not make it that useful.
    Heres a list of players on whom gloria does not do much at all.
    --Any rampage user
    --Any mage with heavy armor
    --Any pure tank char
    And a list of players on whom gloria does help decently:-
    --Reflex user or berserk user that do not use rampage.
    --Charas with less than 250 def (Around 150 to be precise)
    These include dual wielders and arrow sub users (Bow or halberd, even katana in some rare cases).
    It does nothing much for halberd either if they are using godspeed wield.
    But theres 1 skill that does do something and that is CHAKRA. You missed my message earlier so I am saying it again.
    REMOVE shield and EQUIP knux to use chakra. It is way underrated as a support skill.

    Also yes heal recovers hp not based on caster's hp its based on the hp of the person you cast it on.
     
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    Maybe that's why there were 1 hit full heal, they are glass types......

    .......

    The gloria skill still helps nonetheless, especially when you can't rely on usual support buffs cause of the boss' AoE galore

    The reason why shield is best for support

    • Less mp needed to cast protect/aegis
    • Shampy shield (1.5k hp) and maton shield (1k HP, physical and magical barrier)
    • P.Def
    • Shield bash (stun)

    P.Def is usually self explenatory, i thought i don't think i needed to explain this but here goes

    P.def (aka: perfect defense), blocks any attack with perfect timing. Saves your tail from aoe attacks and other heavy damage skills or fraction attacks that are deadly when it hits

    Have it set to level 1 for zero agro (for maxing that skill will give you 500 agro)
     
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    So is leveling knuckles just for chakra worth the points? I havent seen it in action but i assume it must be nice to combo.
     
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    I have a low level brawler, for personal use its really good.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Personally I would say no if you are a dps/tank knux user since to get full potential of chakra you need to a dedicated supporter build with very high cspd and above average aspd. You can still take it if you want since the buff it gives aside from the mp heal are good as well its just you wont be using it as much if you are tanking or doing damage.
     
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    Update on my equip

    I replaced my lil devil baratte for Jewelry tiara

    Jewelry Tiara

    • 450 mp
    • MP recovery +15% (not sure about this)
    • aggro -21%

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    So, instead of -75% aggro.... I now have -96% aggro

    So basically I can spam support skills with no worries (be mindful though.. you still have to let your partymates hit boss first)

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    And shove MP 250 crystals on shampy staff and jewelry tiara and you still got 1900 MP



    I hope this helps

     
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    In summer when they hold the June bride event there'll be another tiara with better stats again. Wait for it too. This one is from the last event. I forgot the stats of the previous ones and I don't think I have any saved though.
     
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    I just returned playing Toram last august this year. So i did not know that, just saw that at cb
     
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    Don't get me wrong, this one's pretty decent. Next one might be better though.
     
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    Ty

    Hehehehehhe

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    For me, to maintain a full support status (aka, not getting hit so buffs won't get cancelled) there are
    2 options to have.

    Option 1: have high dodge rate (probably high atk spd and ampr) so you won't get hit by monsters

    Option 2: push your aggro down as low as possible. So you won't get chased by the bosses or mobs

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    This cleric build relies on option 2..... but i think i saw other builts that rely on option 1
     
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    Wow one fifty just came back to Toram today and still stuck at ninety one. Starting completely over wanted to try something knew. That's really far away.
    (Sorry about typo)
     
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    Jaeyson Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, sorry about that

    Most of the essentials are at lvl skill lvl 4 (aka: lvl 150) like heal, maximizer, quick motion

    Its easy to level

    If you're on main quest, set the bosses on easy mode, get friends means getting mercs.

    You can ask the community here to add you so you can have mercs.

    You'll be in 150 in no time
     
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    Yeah I'm going to start today.
    Also what would you suggest like prepare wise until I get there? Like with anything.
    If you don't mind me asking.
     
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    Jaeyson Well-Known Member

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    easiest way is to watch this (video not mine)



    Just type "lfp" there or something

    I can't suggest on what to prepare cause i don't know your playstyle

    What I recommend though is get any char 150 before building a cleric from scratch.

    As for the equipment, check the equipment on my list.

    Some are found to be build by blacksmith (npc) like medic coat, others like shampy staff slotted are aquired by hunting shampy.... same wih its shield

    Some are found on cb

    The costs is not that expensive.... my equipments are very low budget... but very effective as far as pulling down aggro is concerned... which is essential to counterbalance the aggro driven support skills.... so you won't be chased
     
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    New update:

    FLASH TIME

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    Tapping into the speed force

    With the DASH ability released, your cleric can tap onto the speed force

      • Cast your buffs (mana regen, brave aura, quick aura, high cycle) along with bless, protect, aegis, etc
      • run straight for 3 seconds...... you'll dash quickly
      • ---- IT LETS YOU GET NEAR TO YOUR PARTY MATES AND GET OUT OF A BIG AOE ATTACK............. IN A FLASH
      • tapping the speed force will save you from those "homing attacks" and pesky mobs (get more than 24 m for them to stop chasing you)
      • if mini boss spams "bowling skills" in a north south east west, SW, SE, NW, NE direction, DO NOT STOP RUNNING, just run back and forth and keep your char. away from those blue lines
      • if you plan to stop, make sure you're far away from the mini boss, especially if it casts a big AOE attack like CG

      • Take Note: Tapping the speed force only applies to the mini boss, not actual boss or event boss..... and you should not attack anything.
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    I hope this helps

    Another upside of a pacifist

    try it

    Update: Flash time helps A LOT against wandering wheel

    Thos crazy blooming attacks and aoe attacks..... amd that speed.

    You can not have a full buff against it when you don't tap onto the speed force
     
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    I haven't played iruna, is minstrel skill tree a full support skill tree like support skill tree we have now?
     

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