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Cleric build: The way of the support

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Jaeyson, Nov 28, 2018.

  1. ẜἸoωer

    ẜἸoωer Well-Known Member

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    Right now I can't max it yet. Still waiting to cap so I can invest more in it, that or save up and get stargems (First Aid and PlayDead) so I can add more to the skills.

    So far parties I've been in said Fairy song helped them a bit, and its still level 5, but I think its mostly the Dance doing the work since those were at max.

    I will still have to experiment with only Song as a buff to see if they're really useful.
     
  2. Jaeyson

    Jaeyson Well-Known Member

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    I see,

    Wait, did you put adlib at lvl 5 or sticked it to lvl 1
     
  3. ẜἸoωer

    ẜἸoωer Well-Known Member

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    I had mine maxed, I wasn't able to thoroughly check it out, but you could try it at 1 to see how much MP you regenerate from casting it.

    I'm able to regenerate 150MP, but it costs 100 to cast so you get only 50MP

    I mostly use Spirited Dance for recovering MP as an alternative for when Boss moves around too much or casts Blue attacks making MP Charge +Maximizer unreliable
     
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    [QUOTE="iFlower, post: 493292, member: 96041"
    And Nature's Wonder is the only offensive skill that will kill mobs that are attracted to you as well as heal you and other party members inside the area, though not as handy as Heal, still better than Bless imo.

    I've rarely ever been kicked out of parties for it. Hope this helps. The path of Support is really hard and not really supported (pun intended) by many, I'm glad there's build like this that gives hope to us Support players. :)[/QUOTE]

    Nature's wounder's heal I think is a 12m radius. So a bit more then the damage circle. I think like heal it heals you 3k+20% HP. When I did it on myself w/o any party members close enough it healed me the same as my heal. So it heals 3k+20% your HP/pty members in 12m radius or less. Good as a fast heal and better with high HP.
     
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    Its a pretty decent skill for self healing, though I think the amount of heal gets distributed to the number of PT members in the circle. I rarely use it tbh, only when mobs start noticing me lol
     
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    How about using bloom of peace?
     
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    Jaeyson Well-Known Member

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    Bloom of peace?

    That’s nature’s wonder right?

    Im not sure if nature’s wonder will be viable because you attack the monsters toO

    Even though you lower the agro to -100% you still generate agro nonetheless


    Btw, I think I cracked 3 combinations when using the minstrel skill

    1) a portion of Saitama’s strength (warcry + brave aura + passion song) very effective for archers and magic warriors, archers can easily hit 1m+ damage with cf if they equip the right arrows

    2) Wolverine speed healing (Bless (with enhanced bless) and lifesong), that’s 8k of HP healed overall, you may not notice it because your max HP is getting raised to

    3) Infinity mana pool (mp recharge + fantasy song) great for farming mats, your teammates won’t need to charge their mp, they can cast storm nonstop..... and that’s not a metaphor... just make sure you won’t get hit

    Ill still look for other combinations
     
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    Bloom of Peace is a staff with -100% aggro
     
  9. Jaeyson

    Jaeyson Well-Known Member

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    Oh that

    That’s the perfect staff for a cleric

    The other reason why I use Shampy staff is because of the additional 3k
     
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    If you're using Bloom of Peace or the Sakura staves, you can opt to use Heaven Feather Garb as armor, its really good compared to the Medic Coat.
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    I'm not a fan of enchanted bless since it ruins my Halberd wcos hp management
     
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    Jaeyson Well-Known Member

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    I’ve been in hiatus for almost 6 months (just resumed playing Toram 2 weeks ago)

    What’s the stats of heaven feather garb?


    Yeah... i almost forgot to tell this at the first page


    I have a simple rule

    I see halberd shape, I don’t use bless.... (same goes with life song) i just use heal when my partymates who’s not a spear user OR myself has medium to low health

    Eapecially when they try to cut their health from the beginning
     
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    Just some suggestion on the aggro gears, with engagement tiara with eideliebe xtal(-43%), Lil empress garb(-15%), crystal arrow(-20%), guidance lantern(-25%) you could surpass - 100% aggro.

    Then the fun part,
    Eideliebe got some magic pierce and - 15% aggro, engagement tiara and empress garb will give you 600+500 maxmp. You can do a full magic combo while you're not casting buffs with arrow>lances(smite) >impact(cons) >storm(smite) >meikyo shisui(cons). Then you can use impact>burst combo. Use elemental staffs instead of bloom of peace or coryn staff. While ur at it, use 1 or 2 stack gsw as you see fit. Meikyo will give you some boost on crit rate if you want to do some normal proration. With this setup you can reach somewhere between 2.5k-3k matk. Elemental staff will give it a decent damage boost. Maybe it's not what you'd call a 'full support cleric' since you do some offensive skills. But imo it's the 'versatile supporter', master of proration, with 0% aggro, full buff capability and a proration friendly skill spam. Its still merely a concept though. You can also ditch crystal arrow with - aggro% food buff, and use venena dagger to get 15 extra crit. Base crit +meikyo ender gives you 65 crit, 15 from venena dagger, the rest of 20 crit could be filled with either seele xtal or/and crit food buff/avatar stat

    Also heaven feather garb Stat iirc, it's 6%atk/matk, 400maxmp, 4000maxhp, 30%light resist, 20%dark resist, 10% neutral resist, - 30% revive time
     
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    Oh, i replaced my jewelry tiara with engagement tiara

    So basically with my current setup i have like -103% aggro

    I also need the shield for p def and HP and fraction barrier


    Heaven feather garb sounds fun but i need to get bloommof peace first

    Medic coat gives -30% agro
     
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    Oh yeah I also have a 4th comvination with minstrel skill but unlike the first 3 I mentioned this is just pure theory... i have not test this more than once yet

    4) the last stand (gloria + protect/aegis + wisdom song) .... in theory, this can give your glass type team mates a “fighting chance” against global aoe attacks or really big aoe attacks where they cant escape cause this combination ups their def and mdef and reduces their damage from there.

    Again this is just a theory
     
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    To be honest when I meet someone who doesn't want bless I just pty someone else. I have bless up mainly for myself. The last Pty I was in that had someone ask that got wiped out because they did not want bless or heal and another member complained too. Next thing I know, they are both eating the floor and its just me and another member taking care of the boss. Those two got so butthurt they left after the boss fight. I hadn't even said a word about it during the boss fight.
     
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    That’s why my first aid is maxed, just 3 of those and they’re back up and running again

    I do give faith on those who does not want heal, like they know what they’re doing.... also made me extra vigilant on the HP of others, healing it even before their hp reaches 60%

    I think they wanted to “max the damage” that’s why they don’t want heal

    But that being said I do get that feeling especially if I have to revive them for the 3rd time

    There are times that the mp cost of my first aid surpasses finale
     
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    I was in hiatus for 6 months...

    I came back on playing because the minstrel skill tree is out.

    Will be updating soon
     
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    Oh BTW I suggest checking out the dancer skills. The mp one is pretty good. Elegant dance can save your butt too. Nature's wonder in my opinion is faster then heal(I have 1k cspd currently but might change that later) and has a 12m radius approximately for its heal. Idk exactly how much it heals but for me with 8k HP it heals me the same as my heal, with others its divided by the amount of people.

    I have my first aid at lvl 7. Might change it to star gems later on, might not. For my build lv7 is sufficient and after the 3rd cast I just use heal.
     

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