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CRT, STR: Which is better for crit dmg?

Discussion in 'Hunter' started by Teeko, Apr 13, 2016.

  1. Precaria

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    You mean Physical Pierce? I doubt someone could have a hint of a stat adding that... Maybe they'll add P. Pierce to the physical attack skills line of Battle Skills, and M. Pierce to the magical (1 skill or 2 after Desperate Resist), but that's just an assumption.
     
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    True, but Crit helps to land that astute. Also if you want the best of both the Sakura Blade (Two-Hand) give +10 Crit Rate, +1 Crit Damage, and is LIght Element, so that covers dark foes at least
     
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    Right. So I basically added a war helm <Warmonger> to make it 91%, I still hope to get the remaining 4% from an armor or something ^^
     
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    As a 2h -for secondary stat- I'd rather go for DEX instead of CRT, critical rate does help landing the first Astute, but DEX also increases HIT plus adds Stability to 2h.
     
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    Oh I never meant to say to higher CRT for Critial Rate (CRT is like for endgame on low crit builds that need it, imo).
    Yeah In that case DEX makes sense, and possibly some VIT
     
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    Weeee... My whole thought process on deciding on second stat is now spelled out ^^

    Yes, so CRT is useless for 2h ^^

    With skill and gear, 2hs tops crit rate already. DEX has way more benefit, as long as 2h spammer lands the first Astute, it's max crit rate for the rest of the battle ^^
     
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    That could be down the road in Battle tree, as they pretty much covered all the stats already ^^
     
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    yus str dex for op physical 2h
    but i was thinking INT might not be that bad as well...
    you know getting 1 atk/dex not that high the only thing really good about it is the stabi%
    but say priest gets really good skills scaling most into atk + matk thingy then 2h str int might be viable
     
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    1 atk for DEX actually produce more than that ^^

    All skill damage is based on white damage. Maxing DEX will give 33% increase in base attack. From 255 X 3 = 765 to 255 X 4 = 1020. Plus other bonus obtained from Mastery 3% on base atk, Atk-up, etc... All multiplies and add on to base. So the 33% is good increase.

    And skill damage is (white damage + Fixed) X Modifier, so that 33% increase will be quite obvious ^^
     
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    no it doesnt give 33% base atk it barely gives 25% because a huge part of 2h damage comes from the wep dmg itself
    im saying putting int would scale with skills from the priest skill tree as well as the mage skill tree...
    im not saying its bad its just an alternative path... max dex would give u at most ~300+ dmg while max int would give around ~700+ or so matk
    imagine the possibilities of a 2h dealing high physical and considerable magic dmg// that matk would further be increased by sword mastery and magic up and equips
    and i am well aware ofc 2h would benefit high from dex as secondary stat to STR...
    i mean comparing it to just the base is weird considering 2h has the highest wep atk of all
     
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    I once had a STR=INT 2h experiment build, so I understand what you are talking about. But I still gotta warn anyone who wants to try that to triple consider, as STR INT will leave you with 1 stat left.

    So you go STR INT DEX so your hits will land and have good Cspd? Then you have no stat left for defense.

    Do you go STR INT AGI or STR INT VIT for survival and sit there and miss all day?

    Or do you go with a combination and spread your stats thin?

    Until there is a solution to above problem, there is no effective way to make a STR INT build, whether the main weapon is 2h or staff.

    That's why I think STR adds stability to staff is a troll, because there is no real way to make that combination work ^^
     
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    Id prefer 255dex over 255int, less skill points used plus the priest attacking skills arnt all that great, 255dex would give +255base atk and 102% stability? Cmiiw
     
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    It'd top at 100%, Stab. can't go higher. It tops at 90% with staff and at 80% with MD, any Stability above those % will do nothing.
     
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    True but 102% just incase some op equip has -stability % so i think its better to know the full number whilst knowing the cap
     
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    Maybe this a bit late to ask but will stats on equipments like +str% and +str give critical, critical damages and stability too?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Sorry if I'm out of topic XD
    Do you know what stat add stability for staff? Searched almost everywhere, but still cant find anything :/

    On topic, IMO, as long as you don't have maxed crit rate, CRIT is better than STR. But once crit rate is capped (either through crit stat, equip or bonus from skill such as astute, shadow step and triple kick), excessive crit rate is worthless.
     
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    His name has a fullstop :p
     
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    Dex gives Stability for Staffs ^^
     
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    No problem, I just decided to comment his name just in case
     
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    Not sure with str tho. XD I've done test on dex cause it adds a bigger amount on "Hit" so I prefer the stability of it ^^v {Correct me if im wrong xD}
     

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