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Cypherian's Guide to the +27/30 Dual Wield AMPR build

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Cypherian, Jan 1, 2016.

  1. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    HI Guys,

    Cypherian here, one of the few DW Mains in the game, and I'm about to show you my build for 27/30 ampr.
    Why 27/30 ampr you ask?
    Well First thing's first, DWs have an increased base ampr compared to 1h/2h and Brawlers.
    Second, we wouldn't want to waste all that aspd by just using mp charge don't we.
    Third, It's fun as hell to see your pt members charge up while you're there swinging your swords and gaining mp for those combos in a short amount of time.

    The sole purpose of this build was for my own happiness only. but since a lot of people asking me what my build is and why i built it like that. i decided to share some parts of it.

    Im posting my old build right now. not giving away my current build

    Built on 70 Cap;
    Stat Builds are fairly the same to any kind of DW build so go with what you want.
    I build mine as
    150 Dex <- main hand damage and accuracy source
    30agi 81 agi<- Source of Flee and Aspd and sub weap damage
    30 Str <- 1 point gives half increase in main hand and sub hand damage and also increases cdmg a bit; removed, to be added on later levels

    Skill Builds are standard but mine are based on the xtals i use
    My build is:
    DW Tree Standard Build
    10 Dual Mastery
    10 Dual Control
    10 Godspeed
    10 Twin Slash
    10 Spin Slash

    Sword Skills
    5 Hard Hit -> 9 Hard Hit: Main Flinch Skill and Combo Starter.
    5 Astute -> 10 Astute: 3 attack sets worth of crit
    10 Trigger Slash: Doesnt really add anymore when i have 30 ampr from items and xtals. (Making me assume that Trigger Slash only increases your AMPR to +30)
    10 Sword Mastery -> 5 Sword Mastery: adds damage; minor skill adjustment


    Battle Skills
    5 Attack Up -> 10 Attack UP <- assuming that this gives you +10% atk at lvl 10; Increased at later levels
    5 Smash <- Pre reg for Crit Up
    10 Crit Up <- Either adds 5% or 10% Crit rate and Crit Damage

    Survival Skills
    5 MP Regen -> 5 HP Regen
    10 MP Boost -> 10 HP Boost
    5 Fighters High

    Knight Skills
    1 Assault: Engage Skill for Bosses and Enemies that move alot

    EDIT (03/10/2016)
    Updated Skill Builds, Stats and Equips.
    Updated to 85 Cap
    Updated to Include Survival Skills and Survival Capabilities
    Added Assault from Knight Skills
     
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  2. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    Built on 70 Cap
    Equipment builds are not that tricky.
    1st Build is the standard build, smallest amount of ampr possible. focusing on utility/damage xtals rather than the ampr.
    Saber or Adel -> SoS/Tomahawk/Rapier: Ganglef
    Any sub
    Armor : Boss Roga
    BD Crown -> BD Crown/War Helmet : Warmonger -> Warmonger/Mauez/Masked Warrior
    WarBangle: Eerie/Sroar or Dex Tal 2 : Eerie/Ooze

    2nd Build is where the AMPR Build comes in.
    Note that this build lessens alot of your hp due to S.roar having -8% Max HP
    Saber or Adel -> SoS/Tomahawk/Rapier: Sroar/Moonlight Potum/Masked Warrior
    Any sub
    Armor : Sroar/Masked Warrior
    BD Crown-> BD Crown/Magic Scarf: Sroar/Masked Warrior
    War Bangle: Eerie/Sroar/Masked Warrior

    As I Said in the 2nd Build it is ampr, focusing a lot on AMPR xtals and equips.

    Basically what i did was just merge a full ampr build into the standard 1h build.
    Adding Boss Roga means you can add more Skills or level up skills with the extra 15 SP
    Going with lvl 10 HP Boost means you sacrifice 15 SP For some other reasonable xtal

    EDIT(03/10/2016)
    Updated to include New items
    Updated Weapon Choices, Add Gear Choices, Xtal Choices for AMPR and DPS Build
     
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  3. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    The combos i use right now are same as what i use earlier. Or i adjust depending on the boss/ miniboss

    Standard breaker combo
    Hardhit, Astute Consec, Spin Slash Swift, Trigger Consec. 2mp
    Hardhit to get flinch, Astute adds crit rate, Spin Slash spams mini crits, Consec is like a nuke crit. Can crit up to 8k.
    Alternate is to switch Spin Slash to Twin Slash Consec turns to 1mp combo
    Max damage output can do 10k-16k combos. With my build, 1 attack set can generate 1m bar to spam the 1mo combo.

    Nuke Combo that can work on anyboss
    Astute, Twin Slash Smite, Trigger Consec.
    Self explanatoru, Astute can Crit up to 10k, Twin can crit to 15k-18k. Trigger as closer but can do 2k crits.

    I switch up combos for certain bosses.
    1mp and nuker combo for gk arco, fast in fast out.
    Astute, Twin Slash Smite, Spin Slash Swift, Trigger Consec for Dgate and any other bosses that dont have dash like forestia, Ooze if you can corner it.

    And Hardhit, Spin Swift, Trigger Consec. Which is what i use to spam quick combos for breaker.

    I maximize.the speed of execution of skills since spin slash has that momentary delay at the end of.cast before casting trigger. Using swift on spin can remove that delay. And with level 10 trigger, it casts immediately and.does hell lotta damage.
     
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    1st Video showing the comparison of having minimal ampr and maximized ampr


    2nd Video soloing Dgate with the build


    3rd video soloing Boss roga with an experimental build.


    4th video Soloing Arcoiris
     
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  5. Cypherian

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    Cypherian ampr build is crazy as hell :D
    when someone busy re-charging mp bar, i enjoy slashing boss n spaming combo :)

    im really happy find this build n proud being DUAL WIELDER ..
     
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    thanks :D i didn't really expect anyone except me would follow this build. thanks :D
     
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    Thanks For Sharing This build all I have to do now is make a new dual wield;) also if I don't follow equipment build would my DW still be good?
     
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    Well, i built mine like this.
    you have your freedom to make a build of your own. i just decided to harness the innate advantage of DWs, which is the unique attack animation, the DWs attack animation equates to 3 normal attacks of a 1h. so if you watch my vid. you can see the difference. the effect from increased ampr gives me the freedom to spam skills, every after normal attack.
    you can follow the build or not, but the equips i mentioned above are some of the only items that have ampr as a stat.
     
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    Owh OK thanks again
     
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    Astute level 5 is 5secs, level 6 is 10 secs. I think it's worth 1 SP.
     
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    i have it now on lvl 10 for increased damage. my astutes can now hit around 10k rather than playing around 4k-6k at lvl 5
     
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    This is what I was looking for ;-; thank you!
     
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    I am glad to be of help <3
     
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    Interesting build. You utilize the adventage of DW's buffed AMPR to it's max.

    I wonder tho, if I moved the 30 str to agi to increase the off-hands damage,flee,and evasion would be good idea?
     
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    the build here is a bit outdated, might update it soon after finalizing some tests. i decided to go for 150 dex, get agi to 150, then get str to 150. im at 150 dex 70 agi right now
     
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    That being said, it would be str:agi:dex 1:1:1 on final build? With current the max level of this game (80) I guess the 1:1:1 build wouldn't be very viable and comparatively weak compared to agi:dex 1:1 build or full-dex build.. But then again, maybe I missed something on stat builds that blind me from such build? I looking forward on the enlightment on this one.
     
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    yup, it would be 1:1:1 build when stats are maxed out to 450-500.
    most players would go 1:1 dex agi or 4:4:1 dex agi crit. but with that build, yes you would hit equally, in auto attacks but your total damage output is compromised.
     
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    So, the total-damage is the trade-off then? I see..

    IMO tho, I can't really put stats on str, as their raise isn't as good as dex as a general damage or agi that could raise the evasion and flee-rate. Little to no player would invest str on their dw build.. XD
    I hope one day, someone would enlight me with the importance of having str in dw builds.. XD
     

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