Dagger vs Arrow for DPS mage

Uh warmonger ultimate even its normal atk does more than 1k dmg (unless you have a lot of resistance)
Idk how its possible with just 2k hp, also mdef from int on mage hardly reduces any dmg soo

 

How Did We Get to talking about Vit and Survivability, all I Wanted To Know Was What Mage is Better DPS Wise Between Dagger Mage and Arrow Mage

 

Dagger has better proration potential imo. Idk if was already said on this thread, but you can build proration count faster with dagger by spamming Auto-Attack plus Lv10 Throwing Knife, which looks faster than just doing simply autos with Arrow. And if you have dagger passive autos and knife skills will pile up additional damage.

 

Lvl 10 Throwing Knife is 0mp correct?

 

I mentioned that earlier like 3 pages ago, and possibly others as well, to which it only seemed like one person read it (and not even the whole thing)...

 

Proration is only taken advantage of at solo runs , but then again even at solo runs you could also prorate by having a merc on your party.
Seems like you forgot that on a boss run , you only spam combos and with that combos both arrow/dagger mages use physical skills as well , so your point is almost invalid.

 

yes.^^

yeah, after 2 pages, i saw that it wasn’t mentioned so i just pointed it out as well. xD

But yeah, in a span of 4 auto attacks with arrows, you can do 4 auto attacks with dagger+ throwing knife. It definitely is faster, the way i see it.

 

That is true, however, like i said, throwing knife+auto is still faster building up proration even with mercs. ^^

 

Extra hits from hidden knife do not add extra proration

 

Wkwkwkwkwkwkwkwk sir good build

 

Assuming that ASPD for dagger mages is slightly above base and growths, the skill animation for Throwing Knife (0mp active skill) covers the interval between auto-attacks.

Two auto-attack mercs > player auto-attack proration because of simultaneous attacks, whereas player auto-attack proration leading into skills is sequential. In any case, 5 auto-attacks from one player and two auto-attack mercs would be sufficient enough for almost every boss.

 

I didn't say they did?? All I said is, you get extra dmg in! @.@
My point was, the animation of auto-attack + lv10 throwing knife is fast enough tht it can add up proration faster compared to auto-attack from arrow mages.

 

if we consider the use of mercs coupled with a dagger mage doing auto-attack+lv10 throwing knife too, you use less time to perform proration still, needing only probably 2 auto hit by each mercs plus dagger mage performing 3 autos+2 throwing knife in between each auto hit. Maybe shaving around 2secs of time needed for proration. The difference might be miniscule if we put it that way, but in boss runs there should be a noticeable gap between run times.

 

proration doesnt come only from number of hits.. it counts damage as well.
dagger wins in no of hits.
arrow wins in dealing more damage.

in term of total dps per combo (excluding motion)
dagger can only use 2 mp as save skill. gatling gun is sux as save skill.

arrow has two options. smokedust for bigger save mp pool(5mp) yet bigger aggro. or para(3mp) less aggro and increase stability
poison dagger less mp pool(2mp) yet quicker motion.
arrow wins in dps per combo bec they can use 3 smited skill in 1 combo. however motion is slower.

in term of equip :
best dagger companion for mage is sailor dagger bec it gives u matk%
best arrow companion for mage is artisan arrow which gives 100mp and 1%motion. or if you fight neutral, u can use magic arrow(1%dmg to neutral, - 10cdmg)

in boss pt, no mage can have leisure time to prorate 7x til low normal atk and deal heavy damage in the end.
so both arrow and dagger have their own benefit and weakness.

personally i use arrow since cap 105
why?
1st. i Need 1 insta skill which cost 1mp as opener to smited my arrow as my 2nd dps skill after storm from far away. which is moeba shot.

2nd. for future purposes. alongside with weapon upgrade, my ATK stat also increase. there will be a time when my moeba shot deal decent damage as 1 of a way to prorate as well as add additional damage. which cannot be achieved by using dagger skill

thats from my point of view.

 

I assure you with a merc during boss runs , you'll be wasting more time if you start of the run prorating at start and wasting 4 secs prorating , mercs are enough to prorate for you since combos at most takes 8secs to finish and that is equivalent to hit 6-7 hits of merc.

One thing that people seems to forget is arrow mages capability of making numerous combo that could adapt to every boss/meta due to 5mp save , i dont think dagger mages could make impact-less combo , nor i think they could make triple smites without using too much mp.

 

You guys have some pretty good points so arrow mages actually do more dmg with the 5mp save.....and can make triple smited combos.....pretty lit

 

hmm both dagger and arrow can deal decent damage. your playstyle is the only thing that matters.. just by equipping arrow doesnt mean your damage is automatically higher ^^

 

Haha your right, its about playstyle

 

I think it's the same, but dagger has +1% MATK (Sailor's Dagger) do the damage you deal maybe a lil higher when use Sailor's dagger