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decoy shot + magic arrow

Discussion in 'Hunter' started by mark o doom, Jul 16, 2022.

  1. mark o doom

    mark o doom Well-Known Member

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    decoy shot + magic arrow.jpg sooo i'm using an int bowgunner with magic arrow and additional magic.... but i don't understand why my decoy shot damage is soooooo low???? even if i put dex instead of int it's very low and magic arrow, eventhough coryn says it applies to decoy shot, doesn't seem to boost the damage at all, neither does smite..... and i've tried casting magic arrow before decoy shot and after decoy shot and i'm doing average 200 damage with decoy shot while my additional magic does 16k and my normal attack is doing 1.5k.... am i missing something about decoy shot?
     
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    also note that i don't have any crit damage on my items, so even if i hit a crit at 1k for decoy to do 20% of that considering it can't crit.... is strange cause non crit would be 700 and decoy should be doing at least 700 if i'm understanding this skill correctly it has 1.0 multiplier.... 200 is just inexplainably low to me, and that includes a smite tag....
     
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    it because the proration. your attack getting weaker if you keep attacking with same skill, but will get stronger if you attacking with different skill. like auto attacking till the damage get too low, then use moeba shot skill. decoy shot cannot prorate, but use auto attack proration for damage, that's why it do low damage. also nobody use decoy shot for dps, they use it to recover mp fast.
     
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    to remove the benefit of the doubt i just hit rafi with the decoy and on rafi the decoy without smite or magic arrow does more damage than my own normal attack... also i'm pretty sure i'm prorating matter of fact before switching to full additional magic i was using additional melee + magic to consistantly keep my normal attacks at full damage and decoy was still doing 80, there's something weird going on.
     
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    i legitimately do not see why or understand how decoy shot would do less damage than my own normal attacks if i do not use a save tag on it and it is level 10.....
     
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    and i don't understand what you mean by nobody uses decoy shot for dps, it literally doubles your attack without dropping it with proration.... why would nobody use it for dps???
     
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    most new bosses have like more than 10 million HP. decoy attack would be 10k or more depend on how much your attack stat and current proration, and it will decrease even more while you auto attacking. meanwhile, attack skill like satellite arrow and cross fire deal more damage than your decoy. but decoy help you recover your mp faster. that's why nobody using it for dps.
     
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    apparently the issue is that eventhough on coryn it says magic arrow adds to decoy shot while not losing stacks to decoy's attacks, magic arrow is not added to decoy shot, not if casted before nor after decoy it is just not added to decoy and so my decoy attack stays crap :<
     
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    Actually what is applied to the decoy are the stat bonuses and the ampr increase, not the auto attack constant bonus. As stated in decoy skill info, the decoy is unaffected by any auto attack damage modifier, as the decoy's attacks are not really "auto attacks" and more like skill attacks that can apply ampr.
     
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    unless they adjusted the effect of Magic Arrow, it does increase the atk stat by a flat amount based on your matk stat. this increase also affects atk-based skill damage.

    check your stat screen before and after activating Magic Arrow if there is any difference.
     
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    @mark o doom to boost the damage of your decoy, go get the decoy shot compress registlet at stoodie ^_^
     
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    Except that it's simply a weaponATK% bonus, which is also stated in its info.
     
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    ah... yes, 5% at lv10. found my old notes. auto-attack damage was the sum of atk and matk but atk on the stat screen only increased by a minor amount.
     
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    ah ok i see what it says on decoy, but that makes what coryn says on magic arrow misleading because it says quote: "The attacks of the decoy from Decoy Shot do not consume any stack, but still receives full effects of Magic Arrow buff" which is false because, conclusion, decoy shot is unaffected by auto attack modifiers so that part of the buff is unapplied and therefore there is no "full effect" applied.
     
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    thanks for the help btw appreciate it
     

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