Discussion: do you think mage is an over powered class in Toram?

To start off i have 2 mages : one mainly DPS and one major in support skills. Both are full int and has core mage skills. 1 alchemist and one unknow class (i deleted and start over many times)

Today i heard my friends had some discussion about mage being too OP and Toram should make other classes become as eaqually powerful as mage.

So i was like... nah mage arent all that good. I can totally pointed out several things i dislike about mage and think i like.

Good things.

1) farming gob and skele are easier with mage
2) high damge
3) colorful skill and cool position at the openning at the boss fight XD ( this is the main reason i choose mage.LOOOL)

Bad things. ( coz my life doesnt envolve around skelie and Gob)

1) suck at farming other stuff. It really take me longer to farm material. I usualky take 1 hr to farm simple things like leather armour mat ... because the monster are not clustered. It would be better for archer and swordie.

2) long cast time and the cast time stop when i got attack (make it suck at farming) i could go ^##^^^#@!!$&*^ everytime i farm something and i have to recast my spell so often. (And lvl7 pomum could knock me down. =_=)


so...yesyerday i have to farm fire fabric resistance for my guild BS ... and i have only mages. It was a horrible farming =_= until my swordie friend came and helped. Totally saved my time.

I love boss fight with brawler coz they has awesome skill that can break bosses in a sec. (I didnt even cast my spell yet and the boss parts were broke already. Awesome)

My archer friends also help me coutless of time at skele farm and mat farm with their rain arrow skill. XD

And best of all Tanker. I really appreciate their time level up a good thanker for other team player to survire in boss fight. I had played tank myself and it so HARD to lvl up without plvl.

So yea... while people are frusturating over the high demand of mage at skele... i feel like skele farming are totally boring and i try to avoid it unless my buddies drag me there. XD

And i also need to assure you that it is hard to lvl up a mage in a traditional way (boss fight)

Im glad that toram is a game that require team work.... and overall there is no class that standing out or OP in this game. And i ,as a long term mage player, do not feel like mage is an OP class at all.

So what you guy think???

 

1st opinion - I think it's the other that is under power. Given that mage has low hp phy def(not talking about mage with tanker attribute).
2nd opinion - I do agree mage is on a high demand when coming to boss fight
What do you think?

 

Well, mages HAVE to be the strongest in DPS because they're weak in pretty much every other field (tanks, supports, knights etc not included).
Low HP, low DEF, low Normal ATK ( they're pretty much reliant on magic attacks), long cast time (which makes single atk farming almost impossible)... I could go on and on, not to mention the other valid points you put up there.
The high DPS makes up for all the other things that they suck in. So it wouldn't really be fair to say they are OP, because, frankly, they're not (at least in some areas).

But yeah... Mages rule

 

Idk if I'd even say that with toram's system. I have a mage that's a little light on ATK power but has 2k HP and BD armor, and he can take hits that level other builds. And that's an int/luck build.

Plus Toram allows you to take whatever tree you like so in theory I could basically make a tank with arrow, wall, javelin, HP boost, and heavy armor guard tree passive. That's 55 points for those of you keeping score at home. Throw in staff mastery, a few points in charge, some BD armor and a tortuga shield and I can be tank and DPS at the same time with enough Revita.

IMO mage should require more skill points to deal really significant damage. You can dish out over 10k with the right combo pretty early in the tree leaving few downsides, and the ability to mass farm with aoe means its also the primary money maker (not counting rare/xtal drops, those are a dice roll). I'm not saying they need nerfed but I'd like to see mages require more downsides to be effective.

 

Just an addition, even without all that stuff it isn't hard to part with the 15 points for HP boost and not sacrifice damage. That's what I mean, its too easy to make an all-around char with a mage. Stack your gear right and you can have high MATK, high mana, and high HP without agonizing over points or really sacrificing anything. That's what makes mage a little OP

 

Just a note on your cool positioning. You take the same position irregardless of what class you are. lol The only person who sees you up front is you, everyone else sees themselves.

As for mages being OP. I've always had a love/hate relationship with them. The line between OP and Balanced has always been thin with them.

 

Mages are the same in almost every other mmo. Glass cannon and that's all they can (if we talk about dps mages ofc). But they do it the best

 

That's very true, and I'm fond of saying we're only about 1/4 into the game yet.

That said, speaking strictly as things stand today, I'd venture towards yes in regards to the OP question.

 

I say the same as BK, I see mages in Jap going with Mage skills and swaping to sword to do sword combos, then back to staff for mage combo. its all fked up now...

 

Japs OP.We need World vs World PvP for that.

 

Well, I know priest tier 3 hits at lv170 (ugh -.-) so a near-term cap of at least 200 is probably a safe bet

 

AGREEEE

 

True true, so we will deff see a lot of content into Toram. Hopefully Mages will be more balanced eventually..... Lol.

 

Agreed.

All classes have their benefits. As you stated. Swordys and Archers are 1 target dps. While mages are aoe. and monks are pretty much debuffers.

 

I totally agree with BK here.

Mage just has somewhat high demand coz the high damage it dealed. And the element of staff help to since some bosses are weak against element etc.

But i think a boss like Forestia really require teamwork and non of the class outshine one another.

Mage would be dam to fight with forestia without a help of other class.

 

I agree Mini, but recently, we BAKUFU, been 4 rangering it . So easy.