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DPS Mage Guide - Level 80 Update in Progress

Discussion in 'Mage' started by x2c, Sep 13, 2015.

  1. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Impact seems to do twice as much dmg with a m.device than it does with a staff.
     
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  2. Lear

    Lear Well-Known Member

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    Been waiting for this.. Good work! ;)
     
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  3. Ergeruz

    Ergeruz Well-Known Member

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    do i need the skill next too chain cast?
     
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  4. x2c

    x2c Well-Known Member

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    No. Power Wave increases the range of Normal Attacks of Staves and Magic Devices, and it reduces any damage dealt by any other weapon except those two.

    It's not useful for DPS Mages, since we don't rely on Normal Attacks.
     
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  5. Ergeruz

    Ergeruz Well-Known Member

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    Whew i see... Good thing injust spend it on magic up.. Thanks
     
  6. Kuroe

    Kuroe Well-Known Member

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    this part of your guide seems a bit questionable more or less confusing to me.
    if it's OK to provide a skill set break down with Magic Device users.
    also regarding about Power Wave aswell, is it useful for MD users?
     
  7. Aeryu

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    magic device works this way on magic skills:
    lv10 magic arrows 8 hits with md but lower dmg per hit and longer animation because of added hits(6 hit with staff)
    lv10 magic lance 4 hits with md but lower dmg per hit and longer animation because of added hits(3 hits with staff)
    wall wider aoe but lower damage than staff
    blast wider aoe but lower damage than staff
    storm wider aoe but lower damage than staff
    impact double damage (im not sure if aoe size is affected)
    longer mp charge time
    i dont know the effect of md with javelin but it also has some damage reduction
    i havent tested power wave with md


    i tested the damage difference with vita cores and water staff both with 32 atk
    in my opinion magic device users lose alot of dps even with the double damage of impact because it doesnt really make up for the lost damage from your other skills. magic devices are good if you are into larger aoe size. personally i only use md for farming mobs.
     
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  8. x2c

    x2c Well-Known Member

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    Now that you mention it, it is confusing for me to mention it, lol. Why do I bother to mention this on a DPS guide?

    But, @Aeryu mentioned all of the necessary information. In short, MD's have more AoE, but less damage overall. Power Wave is useful because you can normal attack from a the same distance as the maximum range of your spells. This is good for MP regeneration, damage drop-off, and overall safety

    Personally, as a DPS Mage, I would never use a MD in any situation, except farming. There aren't any situations in the game so far that demand very high AoE.
     
  9. Kuroe

    Kuroe Well-Known Member

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    thanks for answering my question. I was quite curious about it and I see some mages used (like myself) would use MD over staff.
    I do like some minor detour from the traditional staff wielding mage (like all mmo had, especially Asobimo's games arguments with their Mage build like Dagger vs Staff 「Avabel Online」 or guns vs staff「Izanagi Online」).

    another thing is this "Personal status" (the one with Mental, Tech, Luck), this seems confusing as well.
     
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  10. Kuroe

    Kuroe Well-Known Member

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    well I guess staff does deals more damage (especially elemental staff) compared to M.D.
    it's shown on this video
     
  11. x2c

    x2c Well-Known Member

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    Minor Update! (Listed in no particular order)

    - Removed Magic Device section
    + Elemental Staff recommendation for Weapon, thanks to @Squid
    + Armor stat information, thanks to @tekuuei
    ~ Personal skill recommendations clarified
    + Magiadd II information in MP Boost skill section
     
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  12. tekuuei

    tekuuei lnori Elite Member

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    why is there "INT +6 and INT +6, or" for armor?

    LOL
     
  13. x2c

    x2c Well-Known Member

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    I had found photo evidence of these stats on an armor here on the forums, however, I can't find it after searching for an hour, so I gave up, lol. But there's always this thread that has screenies of other insane stats.

    And I'm glad you found my attempt at informing others about potential stat combinations amusing. It's encouraging, it really is.

    Anyways, a double INT +6 armor is viable until max INT reaches 200+, then percentages gain the upper hand, if they haven't already.
     
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  14. Ergeruz

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    I saw that armor too, but i think its kinda useless now since if you have int 6 for arm and int talis II u can have 200 int right??
     
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  15. tekuuei

    tekuuei lnori Elite Member

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    Max for stats adding is 250 If I'm not wrong but stats on equips will and always add over 250, so there is no limit. So example if you have 250 Int, and equips give an addition 40 INT you will have 290 int. Those 40 will not show in your stat list but will always be added.

    And there won't be a double of a same Stat on any single equips so unless it's bugged else there won't be int and int or matk and matk, only int and int% or matk and matk% or combination of any other non-duped Stat type.
     
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  16. x2c

    x2c Well-Known Member

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    250? Alright. Good to know ^^

    I doubt what I saw was duped but... regardless, it's no longer optimal compared to other combinations. Who knows? Maybe I was duped xD.

    I'll be removing that info now lol.
     
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  17. x2c

    x2c Well-Known Member

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    Currently updating the guide for Level 75 cap and temporarily removed Skill Details for all skills. I may make a separate post for the Magic Skill Tree details, not sure yet.

    Updating equipment now.
     
  18. SijPerilous

    SijPerilous Well-Known Member

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    Hi x2c,
    Your combo,
    - Assault Attack > Magic: Impact (Save) > Holy Fist (Consecutive) > Magic: Storm (Smite) > Throwing Knife (Consecutive)

    Costs more than 100 mp. It costs almost 200 MP. Is there something wrong with this combo set? TIA
     
  19. x2c

    x2c Well-Known Member

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    Must be I calculated the MP cost wrong. My apologies. I assumed it worked the same way as the combo before it, that's why I mentioned it.

    For the rest of the guide, I'm going to be tweaking the format again, lol.
     
  20. Vulpixsi

    Vulpixsi AFK Queen Elite Member

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    I do! I really do! This thread helped me a lot! tyvm ^^
     
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