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Dual Build of Speed. How will it do? (READ 1st POST PLEASE)

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by Lynxia, Jun 15, 2017.

  1. Lynxia

    Lynxia Musketeer

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    Hello everyone i have a new build i love sooo much, but i want to see how you might think if would do against bosses like Imitacia mini bosses like Violaccoon.,
    Heres a video of my current build:
     
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    Looks nice, able to do vid at ms?
     
  3. Lynxia

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    Already did :D. phantom can hit 8.2k per hit with my current combo i didnt prorate enough to get it up that high. with a bigger comber it can max 9k, which for a lot of ASPD ill take it xD.
     
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    Survival dps? Hehe, imo i would sacrifice some aspd for more ampr because ur at 70+ with s,step active from what i saw, i would get an extra 15ampr so that would be 30 for dw to complete that 1auto=1bar, but thats my opinion, but it wouldnt matter if a fight doesnt last long enough to make u use 70% of ur mp
     
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    Base on my personal Opinion

    Stats :
    I can't agree with DW without Dex stats, it's still their main Stats, 2atk/stats, increase accuracy (reduce graze crit) and stability
    will suggest at least 100 Dex .-. (Personally i use minimum of 200)

    Skills : all good! I see nothing wrong with it.

    Equipments : I will say it's inefficient to have that high aspd..... 1.5k is enough (u got speed potions anyway) and u can improve ur HP, MP, and attack....

    Combo :
    I'll suggest just chose either combo 1 or 2, I don't see any purpose difference between those 2 combos... having 1 mid-long DPS combo is enough I guess...
    so u can get more SP to develop your second combo :)


    PS : I'm jealous with these 3 dye +s sword plus that +11 base general sword x.X
     
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    The different combos is all about adapting to the different situations. If i were to fight a boss that couldnt be fliched i will used the combo starting with Astute. Check out my video against Imitacia:


    and ASPD higher then 1100 adds more Motion Speed which means that the all skills and attack animations gets speed up
    check out this video i found a while back:

    At the time.she only was able to stop at 3078 ASPD but i have 4k ASPD so the motion speed of my skills and attacks are much faster (faster Animations=more DPS)
     
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    lol the +S sword was extremely cheap so i got it since it gave me more crit dmg. My old sword was ATK108 +B STATS (Atk+7% Cdmg+12 Cdmg+7%) and it did the same damge as the +S but it did not have any Crit rate stat.
    Oh and the +11 base Dark.general sword i got after i spam stacked drop books when i was farming Imitator xD.
     
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    Well I understood that, I got 6.5K aspd brawler merc .-.
    well yes diff combo diff use.... but u can edit combo before you fight the boss roght xD I always edit my combo depends on who I face. Idk ur style tho.

    But still.... IMO you waste so much atk / hp / MP for motion speed........
     
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    10secs left side finishes 5th auto, 9secs right side finishes 5th auto, watching this myself i wouldnt invest much in aspd above 2k depending on gear and what other stats it gives besides aspd, but its just autos we need a comparisson with the same combo between 1.1k and 3k/4k etc because thats where it matters and will determine the usefulness of high aspd
     
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    i like using combos that would fit any bosses or situation and for me these combos do just that. Not change in between required :D

    To me motion speed is important. With the combo starting with Spinning slash, phantom can deal 7.5k-8.5k per hit which for 4k ASPD thats pretty good, and with a longer combo i can hit 9k-9.5k, but long DPS combo arent my style. i lean more towards Speed.
     
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    My phantom slash deal 12k (with +C sword) smite with boosted motion speed by trigger slash .-.
    oh well..... maybe our style is different ._.)/

    anyway BK explained what I meant :
     
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    Exactly Auto are one thing but how fast the skills cast is another. And i have to say its pretty darn good at 4k ASPD
     
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    Nice build ^^
    Dat speed tho.. R u kiritos daughter???
    I have a lil question.
    Y not use astute as opener?
    Y not switch astute and spin slash since astute consumes proration before phantom hits.. Since spinslash is magical proration u can still rock with ur combo with high proration..
     
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  14. Lynxia

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    oh on thing too that comparison you made is on point, but Motion speed is more op at 4k ASPD. I tried 3.5k ASPD and it was much different then the quickness of 4k ASPD
     
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    i have an astute combo opener already. Did you watch the video in the first post? xD
     
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    Indeed also dw can auto cancel up to 3times so dat will do for proration and even faster than high aspd autos
     
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    Oh xD yeah my bad i mean in ur long combo the one with high dmg xD that one with+150%dmg
     
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    Shooooooow :p between low and high aspd, i know that it shaves more miliseconds off of longer motionspeed skills and not so much on quick skills but still faster nonetheless, but i do think it has a cap on the total motionspeed else trigger buff and a swifted skill would further speed it up than just 1 of the 2, tho i do know u love ur speed i just wanna see how much u can actually use to replace it with either ampr or more dmg because like a 20% increase in dmg would be more beneficial than 5% motionspeed etc
     
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    Before this build i did have a High AMPR Build close to Knightcrow but prorating was a bit slowwer as well as the skill casting. No offence to you Knightcrow, i liked that build but i love the speed build more :)
     
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    Welp my build has low aspd ik that but i can prorate faster in every dps combo because of auto cancellation.. I dont need to keep using 2-3times auto after dps combo all i need to do is ampr combo auto cancel(3times) dps combo again xD.

    Also i have 80 raw ampr now :p
     

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