Dual Wield Lvl 3 Skills Explanation

Cy.... do u think aspd more than 1000 is worthed for DW?

 

you get 1% per 100 aspd over 1.1k and if i get the chance to max out my aspd. it would grant me around +15% aspd. similar to war cry's motion speed buff. so yeah i guess, for me, it's worth it.

 

If you are interested in My newest Combo... (I name all my builds) My DeathDancer Build has been abandoned, as I deemed it to be too SP intensive. It used both Martial and DW Skill trees along with Power Wave. My solution to My SP problem is yet my Newest Build. I can Upload a video in this thread if people don't mind. I call it my Glasscannon build. Basically It's a Psuedo-Eva-Tank Build That Focuses on High-Risk/High-Reward DPS.

I think you might be interested in my Combo I use. So It's yours if you want it.

Version One-
Reflex>Shadow Step(Save)>Twin Slash(Cons)>Flash Blast(Cons)>Phantom Slash(Smite)>Cross Parry(Swift)
~Allows for 1mp usage Up to Phantom Slash, and 2mp usage to inclue swifted Cross Parry For Buff.

Version Two-
Reflex> Shadow Step(Save)> Twin Slash(Cons)> Flash Blast(Cons)> Phantom Slash(Smite)> Charging Slash(Cons)
~High speed Disengage at the end, all for 1mp. But If Charging slash is out of range to Proc, you stand there and look like an Idiot.

In Both Combos Phantom Slash fires off at 130% Damage. Thats why I love my Glasscannon.
Let me know what you guys think... And if you want me to make a condensed 5 min video dicussing my combo I will.

 

From what I gathered in JP, while X-parry is in motion, you will have to dodge / evade a move for the buff to activate. So you can try maxing AGI and use all evade gear, but it's still not going to be 100% though.

 

How about this?
Astute>ShadowStep (Save)> Trigger Slash (Consecutive)> Phantom Slash (Smite)> Hard Hit/Twin Slash (Save)> Cross Parry/Reflex/Flash Cast[if twin slash] (Swift)
Low cost (100 MP). Starts with Astute Crit Rate buff, 110% Phantom (not as good as 130% but better than 90% at least), Hard hit for flinch to a swift, cross parry buff or reflex buff OR twin slash to save for a swift flash cast buff?

 

According to @Cella evasion research thread reflex increase eva by 40%-50%

http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/cellas-evasion-research.12574/page-4

 

I can't really advise On buff endings... I use Cross parry as an ender mainly to get the buff, But its optional. Most people, (Including Cypherian, the god of DW) Dislike the idea of using any Buffs in combos.... BUT... This way, you can focus on gathering 1mp, instead of trying to maintain 2mp for flash Blast, 1MP for Reflex, And 1MP for Cross parry.... All while struggling to maintain 1MP for main combo. I beleive Cypherian, and many other antiquate Toram gods... and very much in tune with the "I want to be the most highly damaging build in existance" gimmick. I could be wrong.... And thats welcome to debate... But it would seem to me as much of the deciding factors in this thread are focused mainly on DPS. My point here is that You can gather 1mp, Use a 130% Phantom Slash combo.... Deal 20-38K, and still have your buffs going at Lv95. With that being said... It may not be doing 60-80k... But you can get your combo off much quicker without using up too much MP.... and honestly, Flash Blast at R10 along with Light arm Mastery and Reflex will gain you at least 30-45k Extra Damage on a good day.

In totality, My combo Epresses my individual playstyle without striving to be "The absolute best DPS of DW".... Using Sword skills..... Like Astute and hard hit and trigger slash.... Diminishes the SP req's of my combo.... Thus you will not get the same DPS as I do seeing as you will not have the same skills. Althought You may do more/less DPS with sword skills depending on thier rank. I hope this explaination is satisfactory.

 

Just try .
astute..shadow step+save..twin slash+smite...impact+consec...phantom+smite...hard hit n swift.then tell me your dmg output
2 smited atcks.
1mp consumption.
Dmg boost after impact on to phantom.
2 break atcks hard hit+impact.
Highest aggro combo thats fast atm 1400+ aggro build up+ smited atck aggro boosts.

 

Where are you getting 1mp consumtion? Impact? I mean I guess but is this a Theoretical combo or have you tested it? Cause if you think about it... the moment you try and use save... And use it on a skill that doesnt deplete the saved MP... The last skill in the combo chain costs more MP.... I honestly Do not know if this is made right by the impact>Pslash being only 2mp.

I suppose this could be a good dps combo, BUT... It's, in my mind theoretical. Until I see it used... I won't give it an ounce of legitimacy.

Secondly.. Spending the SP required to build this combo Takes away from the SP you would need to have R10 DW skills... Thus you sacrifice DPS there. I have NO way of knowing what dps or total damage this combo can aquire or in all reality if it's actually 1mp without making a full ton designed only to test this combo.

In short... The build would suffer. Maxing DW to r10 is at least 40-50sp. Impact is at the least... 15sp....
Not worth it.

 

But from my test, I actually have to take a physical hit from enemy while on x-parry animation. When I take a hit, the buff stays, if not the buff is instantly removed. Tested on shell mask which has a magical damage type and the buff never stays.

For now lets just wait for @Cypherian to finish his new thread and vid XD

 

So anyone know how's the calculation of double safe?
Is the skills after 2nd safe get double damage reduction?

 

Lmao well its the combo i use so its up to you.
ok firstly
astute=1mp
shadow=4mp+save
twin slash+smite=2mp used 2mp remaining.
impact+con =0mp used +2mp saved=2mp remaining.
phantom+smite= 4mp used-2mp saved from impact=2mp cost
Hard hit+consec remaining =1mp used. All mp depleted.
so yeah i apologize for using swift on hard hit.

So 1mp + 2 smited atacks
as for not waranting impact in the combo it aids to keep the boss in one place.

Dmg wise it varies per player and on your gear and stats if i can do 15k with 100 vit as part of my build im sure you could produce more.
so for legitamacy think as you wish but seems many ppl are happy with the combo. And thats all that matters ^.<

 

You gona lose a lot of damage with double save :/.
Save damage is -80 -60 -40 -20 0. and it stacks.
Here's a example:
Astute-trigger(save)-spiral(smite)-Impact(save)-tempest(smite)-some skill..
Tempest will do only 30% damage cos save is now -80% stacked on tempest

 

Sorry my bad I'm dumb dumb, tempest will do 70% damage output

 

Twin Slash is Unsheathe????

 

Yes

 

really!? what else is unsheathe??

 

Spinning Slash,
Charging Slash,
First Attack,
Evasion counter-attack (the one you see doing a X-slash after unsheathing during evasion side-stepping)

 

So spinning also? thanks for info!
is Spinning slash strong? compare to Twin Slash whichone better? is the difference significant?

sorry for asking a lot im trying to think about my next combo... ^^"

 

Im not quite sure with Twin Slash unless theres an specific information where it is categorize as unsheathe just like charging slash. The reason why you notice an increase dmge with god speed is due to +14 agi which inc your sub wep dmge.(Computation? Idk)
This is just my opinion