1. Welcome to the Toram Online Forums. Please make sure to read our rules and be friendly to all our members.
    Click here to read the rules before posting.
    Dismiss Notice

[DW] Khia's Blade Dancer guide: Now you're playing with power!

Discussion in 'Warrior' started by Khia, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. Khia

    Khia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    48
    Likes Received:
    68
    gate is a problem area atm, flinch causes it to guard, which negates a ridiculous amount of damage.
    unfortunately without hard hit we can't combo. I'm currently debating what skill to put 1 point in just for this boss (and if it's not better to just switch chars)
    knockback glitches gate too, so it's not worth substituting hard hit with a level 1 spinning slash just for the offchance you kill your entire party : /
    anyway gate's a problem.

    you can get a NPC crafted flower band, ooze armor, adel swords and warrior bangle fairly easily.
    but after the budget version, difficulty of attainment skyrockets. (and even budget needs eiree xtal)

    apple drops from coryn (duece hamlet, level 19), fairy wing is from level 23? roars in ruined temple area 2, and burning liquid drops off all mobs in area 1 and 2 of the volcano (I recommend red slimes for chance at red dye additional)

    another huge problem currently is getting the headband from big coryn, DW can't move during an attack, and this boss runs away 24 meters after throwing an aoe stun, with unlucky timing, this resets the boss (who has huge evasion)
    I'm actually leveling an archer just to deal with that, as 5% stability is a huge gain.

    Sorry if I was a little hostile ^^;
     
  2. Kyonko

    Kyonko Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    2
    I see. Yeah gate is a very, very frustrating boss. I felt like a low level player in SAO trying to solo the Skull Reaper
    I'm going to look into the NPC crafted equips tomorrow. I need to get a picture of each one's material requirements so I'll remember them.
    I gotcha on the consumable drops. I'll grab a couple stack of each.
    I've fought big coryn before. I have a lv60 archer that i used for that. I think I'll stick to her for the boss fights. My dw is lvl60 too.
    It's ok.
     
  3. Khia

    Khia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    48
    Likes Received:
    68
    soda potum in longyo canyon drops potum fin (15 for adel sword)
    goblins near gate in crater drop goblin claw (25 for adel)
    squires in land of chaos for big leaf x30 (flower band)
    kijimu in athema ruined town for red petal x30 (flower band)
    kijimu in strum road (or longyo) for petal x30 (flower band)
    goblins in ruined temple for Small article x5 (warrior bangle)

    and ooze armor you'll want from the boss - rare drop :(
    eiree xtal from eiree xtal - takes a bit over 1000 kills on average.

    I really need to add a section in the guide for locations and trouble areas >.<
     
  4. Kyonko

    Kyonko Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    2
    I gotcha. I have an Adel sword (ns) right now as my offhand and a Sabre with an MP+50 xtal as my main. I'll try got join a pt for the farming Ooze armor. I farmed Eerie today about 50 times. Guess I'll make a day to get that xtal lol.
     
  5. Khia

    Khia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    48
    Likes Received:
    68
    finally decided which skill to use in lue of hard hit for gate (and helps with big coryn too)
    I totally overlooked knight skills >.< grab yourself assault attack, check the new combo order and hopefully you'll be a lot more successful on your next gate attempt.
     
  6. Khia

    Khia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    48
    Likes Received:
    68


    Here's a solo warmonger for anyone interested in a rough estimate of results
    I'm still uing 70 dex :( and I need to re-invest a few skill points, the gear I'm using should be pretty close to the casual build.
     
    • Like Like x 2
  7. Antwone

    Antwone Member

    Joined:
    Dec 2, 2015
    Messages:
    11
    Likes Received:
    2
    The thing I hate about dual wielding is that u can't dodge unless all attacks are done. Plus one sword without shield is faster and stronger than dual wield. If u ask me. Dual wield is for looks
     
  8. Khia

    Khia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    48
    Likes Received:
    68
    get out of my thread.
     
    • Like Like x 7
  9. Squid

    Squid Ur Goldfish's lover Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2015
    Messages:
    2,458
    Likes Received:
    2,757
  10. Ashavir

    Ashavir Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    73
    Likes Received:
    26
    I think so too. However, from my experience you're supposed to Cross Parry red zones if your evasion isn't high enough as a DW.

    Nice guide, but why Dual Wield if you're effectively a Blader (75% of your skills)? Seems redundant.
    One other thing: unless DW stats follow different rules it is my understanding that Dex offers more to Crit rate on top of the 50% more to Atk than Str does.
     
  11. Khia

    Khia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    48
    Likes Received:
    68
    100% more attack than strength 1 from strength, 2 from dex, 2 offhand from agi.
    each skill has ONE additional bonus
    str is cdmg, dex is hit, and agi is attack speed.

    and if you *actually* read my guide, you'd know exactly why I chose blade skills yet use a sword as an offhand.
    It's explained in the introduction FFS - but seeing as you struggle with it, here's a tldr;
    DW has higher mana mana per hit, and only 1 DPS skill (with a really nice cdmg% attached to it).
    as a nice bonus, DWC changes the dex needed for one hit to 3.7 instead of five (-0.3 for each level after 1)
    this is easily a better investment in points than dagger skill's hidden arm.

    I don't know why I'm replying to a troll who's quoting a troll (seriously), but whatever.
     
  12. Saphos

    Saphos Old Sword Nerd Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2015
    Messages:
    1,385
    Likes Received:
    1,245
    IGN:
    Saphoz and my son JoshuaBB
    To get by without using Hard hit, I'd suggest this:
    1) X-parry > Astute > Trigger slash > Twin slash > Spinning (all Consec)
    Or if X-parry slows you down:
    2) Astute > Spinning > Trigger slash > Twin slash
    If you don't' mind using more than 1 mp, you could use 1) and smite the Twin slash

    I know I am not ending any combos with Trigger slash to take advantage of the mp regen, which is against a lot of principles behind your build, feel free to swap it with Twin slash. I have my own reasons for the sequence that I have.
     
  13. Khia

    Khia Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2015
    Messages:
    48
    Likes Received:
    68
    theres currently 1 point allocated to assualt attack specifically for gate. spinning slash is also a no go thanks to knockback glitching out gate and making it unreachable.
    with my build you wont have points left for both cross parry and spinning slash anyway.
    the entire point of this build is a 1 mana spam, so your suggestions, while nice, are a little out of place :)
    I was using a variation with holy fist instead of hard hit for a while that also proved quite effective, though i recently stopped playing toram.
     
    • Like Like x 1
  14. firefox1981

    firefox1981 Elite Member Elite Member

    Joined:
    Jul 28, 2015
    Messages:
    1,224
    Likes Received:
    728
    holy fist-sonic+consec-astute+smite-impact+consecutive = 2mp at first BUT since impact hits last it then causes further moves halfed so- twin slash then costs 1mp and then repeat sequence ... enjoy
     
  15. xXTALSx

    xXTALSx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2015
    Messages:
    82
    Likes Received:
    99
    DW will never be DPS or a good class...

    It's a fan boy class - if you play for DPS forget DW even exist and remove them from existence
     
  16. Daanish

    Daanish New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2016
    Messages:
    4
    Likes Received:
    0
    What Does The No Life version mean?
     
  17. aaham

    aaham Member

    Joined:
    Feb 10, 2016
    Messages:
    8
    Likes Received:
    3
    Good guide. But to many what if situations.

    1. Why not get hp boost? I know the lack of skill points thing. But i think u can sacrifice other attack skills like twin slash or other. Astute trigger slash is enough right for low mp combos. Additional 1k hp will help i think. U cant always dodge or avoid red area. Theres some sitiuations that u cant.

    2. How does weapon affect normal damage or skill damage for dw. Im confuse about adel sword if u can use 2 rapier with dex crit stats. Sorry im a newbie.


    3. Dex gives 2 damage to main sword while str gives 1 to both which is 2 damage as well. So is there a difference they both give 2 damage. Does it affect skill damage or any other reason?

    And what is ooze armor stats boss version. Also flower hairband boss version.. sorry dont know much about the fame im still a newbie.. i plan to use this guide as referrence. Thanks ;)
     
  18. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2015
    Messages:
    2,120
    Likes Received:
    3,222
    IGN:
    Cyphery
    @Khia no offense. I tried your build. As to the extent of getting it to 80 and adjusting it to a greater extent as much as i can. But i can say that this build is fairly adequate.
    Why?
    1. You rely on crit.
    2. You rely on spamming.
    3. The dependencies on pots is too high.
    4. Str only stat isnt a viable build even if yoy have 50 dex.
    5. Based on the equipment i used based on this build.
    A. You have too little mp to dish out high damage combos. Ehich leads to.
    B. Your auto>combo spam isnt viable because of proration. Since you rely on str to do damage and increase crit damage. You rely on proration to increase the damage dealt on your target, which you may fail to do because you cannot gather enough potential damage when you immediately expend it.

    This is just my experience on your build. I may try and find improvemnts for it without the dependency on pots.

    Thank you. Kudos to this build
     
  19. Kyonko

    Kyonko Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2015
    Messages:
    5
    Likes Received:
    2
    That's the issue I had. I just couldn't kill things nor dodge red zones. This is a great build and does good damage, but as soon as you take aggro you're pretty much done. I just gave up and went to a 2h sword with a full str build. I deal massive damage with that character.
     
  20. メScye

    メScye Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2016
    Messages:
    297
    Likes Received:
    171
    IGN:
    Unknown
    My core. Thanks (^_^)/
     

Share This Page