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DW: Shadow Chaser Build

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by Cypherian, Jan 4, 2018.

  1. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    I often cancel my combos on purpose esp when i go for a Shadow Step > Charging > Ender Combo. i often dont let the last skill activate on purpose so i can shukuchi in and deal damage from autos and regen mp.

    i dont use swifted phantom or trigger boosted phantoms except for bosses who cast fast aoes and can dodge them with Phantom Swift > Shadow step
     
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  2. Lynxia

    Lynxia Musketeer

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    Ok cool :)
     
  3. Fumori

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    Thanks. For shadow step>charging>(cancel) ender
    Should we go whack lvl10>crit up lvl5
    or both lvl 10?
     
  4. I robot

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    whack 5>crit 10.
    whack's sh!t anyways.
     
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  5. Fumori

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    well whack's oftenly down rated though due to most of the time combo's oftenly hit with enders.
    well if you abuse that cancel combo thing there is a slight difference between damage
     
  6. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    both 10. Whack is shit for burst dps chars like halb snipe and katana. for ampr dw who can spam multiple combos in a short time and still do damage, whack 10 us a must because it will proc more frequently.
    stop answering questions not meant for you.
     
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    Thank you.
     
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    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    You're right, my bad. how much damage boost does it give, and how frequently does it proc, BTW?
     
  9. Ryu霧ヶ谷北斗

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    excuse for my presence, the build is very interesting (^o^)丿but can i ask? how many Ampr Sukuchi passive skill will give at lv 10? is it 25, doubled or none for dual wielding class? Thank You
     
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    it was 100, right, @Cypherian ? 50*2 iirc.
     
  11. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    Nope. [50/2 (cause not Katana)] * 2 (cause DW) at level 10.
     
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    There's no penalty for non-Katana Shukuchi(or katana bonus), except that it cannot be used for skills. you can check this in the status screen. the doubling bonus is only for two-handed and Meikyo Shisui. Also tested and can confirm it is 100 ampr for dw using shukuchi(you need to move away if you want to trigger it)
     
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  13. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    Sorry, but I tested it myself as well (first thing I did once Cyph tried it out on his BTW), and it's definitely not 100 AMPR for DW. In fact, I must thank you because you gave me a good excuse to test the recording feature of my new phone!

    As you can see, I had 17 AMPR (10 base + 7 from MP), which makes it 34 AMPR on DW. If Shukuchi was indeed without restrictions, I would have recovered a bit over 1 bar and, after 3 hits, I would have recovered 2 bars (34 * 3 = 102). However, that wasn't the case. I barely recovered a bar and sometimes, it even took 2 hits to recover a bar. While I currently don't know if it's EXACTLY halved (it might be 3 AMPR per level for non Katana), there is a restriction for non Katana.
    Also, you're trusting the people who PURPOSEFULLY REMOVED THE PART OF THE SKILL DESCRIPTION OF RAMPAGE, THE VERY ONE THAT SAID THE BUFF WAS DISPELLED WITH AN ALIMENT as well as USING FLAT "EVASION" ON THEIR POTIONS FOR A LONG TIME INSTEAD OF SWITCHING IT TO DODGE! It may be a blunder, but it wouldn't be behind them to purposefully omit that part.
     
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    Oops, forgot that DW attacks more than once per dash. I'm seriously getting sloppy here. you're right, my bad.
     
  15. Cypherian

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    its 50 for katana. 25 for non katana. but since its DW. ampr from all sources is doubled. thats why its still 50.
     
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    No worries, happens to everyone.
     
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    *still wondering what daheck a tristat is* 0w0
     
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    you use three stats, for example, 150 dex 100 agi 100 str
     
  19. SleepyWickedAngel

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    Your ampr is awesome, what did you use to achieve that? And I love your combos a lot. I'm going to make a similar one but I personally want to ask... Any chance you would try using iconos and probably abandon HP boost so you can max those battle skills for better dps?
     
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    Alternatives to Grecia hat? how about Yelb or what other options i got? cuz i cant afford Baphomela. Grecia is nice but i dont like the weakness to light. what u think bout Jiangshi hat or tyrant mask?
     

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