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Easiest to class to level LUK and TEC characters?

Discussion in 'Production Class' started by LilEmperor, Jan 20, 2020.

  1. LilEmperor

    LilEmperor Well-Known Member

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    I'm planning out my LUK and TEC characters right now and I'm trying to decide what class/skills to go with. My LUK character is going to be a Farmer+Refiner+Tamer, and my TEC characters are going to be a Synthesist and a Refiner+Statter. LUK seems to be a pretty easy choice as a Magic Device character with Storm. I've read that Halberd can be used for farming, but Magic Device seems to be more universal. The TEC characters seem to get split between Staff or Bow, since DEX is useful to a TEC character and those 2 classes utilize DEX. Which would be easier to level? Thanks for your ideas!

    Body Armor Blacksmith? VIT is versatile so can you be pretty much any class as a Body Armor Blacksmith? I'm thinking One-Hand Sword+Shield.

    Also, Mercenaries?
    Close Attacker Mercenary = Two-Handed Sword
    Far Attacker Mercenary = Staff+Shield
    Close Defender Mercenary = One-Handed Sword+Shield
    Far Defender Mercenary = Staff+Shield (Bowgun+Shield seems to be more used, but I really just don't like them)
     
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  2. Zufeng

    Zufeng Well-Known Member

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    Luk char better choose mage, because i converted mine to halb, and its much harder to dps as halb without proper eq
    The reason why people use halb luk as farmer is because they can kill high lvl mob in 1 hit,while storm struggles with it.
    But in boss battle, luk mage can easily outdmg improper halb char/user

    You can use mage on tec char too. Another choice is Bow, but since you are focusing on dex, lvling on nm ulti boss can be pain in ass (My tec cf only deal like 300k dmg max at venena ulti).
    If you are experienced and ready to suffer, you can cram your synth/ref/statting char into bs vit.
    But this requires lot of experience as tank and patience, since you can only use very little skill.
     
  3. LilEmperor

    LilEmperor Well-Known Member

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    So Staff will do more damage than Bow even with TEC/DEX as the main stat?

    With the new tier 4 skills Alchemy and Smith take up even more skill points, is it really even viable to put all those together? And even so, I want to use DEX to increase difficulty. So Body Armor Blacksmith is already out. I separated my Synthesist and Refiner+Statter into 2 characters because Alchemy takes 110 Skill Points to max and Refining/Statting takes 75 Skill points to properly max. Adding those together barely leaves any Skill Points to be able to level with any proficiency.
     
  4. Insane23

    Insane23 Well-Known Member

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    If you have a luk mage that is just for farming (and luk refining, but that only costs 1 sp, so no excuses), you can have blast and burst lv10 to farm so called high lvl mobs.
    Each md blast hit is as wider as 2nd hit of dive impact and only has 2s cast with 1000 cspd, not to mention it never misses. Burst has wider area and larger cd, but after few blasts, it's instant floor wiping.
     
  5. Zezusa

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    Well I can teach you from my mistakes , for your bs you can do it. Like a dps but with limited skills, do a bow character with stats dex and str ( u can make them equal if u want). As for skills yours will be cf, snipe,decoy,bow mastery, brave aura and if u want Godspeed weild. All these skills at lv 10 and any other would be optional. Dex would help would both skills in terms of availability of crafted items so no need for tec tbh, so u have a somewhat capable dps without too much of a drawback, plus u have a bs that can properly craft most desired weapons with decent pot, 1h,2h,halb,bow,bow gun and katana.
     
  6. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    My question!

    Ahm,
    I have a tec > dex char, that l use for refining, statting n synth(prof lvled to 125)..
    Since l aim to stat +20 too, l realize l need to lvl my bs prof aswell..but l seemed to have hit a dead end..
    Lvling prof increasing skills would mean lesser sp for dps skills..
    N at same time..l wanna craft 1h, but again, lesser sp for dps skills..
    Is there a way to keep my synth, refining, n statting skills while putting sp in prof+ skills (for mat reduction) n getting good crafts at same time,
    Since if l do separate..say..my crafter, my bs prof will raise on a dex>str chat then, rendering my bs statter still having burden of full cost .-.)
    Help plz ^^; )..

    Summary (incase l dun make sense above):
    Is there a way to have synth, statter, refiner, crafter n dps n one char(cap 200)?
     
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  7. Zezusa

    Zezusa Well-Known Member

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    [QUOTE="Rizer phoenix, post: 514263, member:
    N its..almost..not possible to acquire ALL bs n synth skills in one char while maintaining dps skills too @.@; ).[/QUOTE]

    you can as we speak I am finishing level my vit bs and I realized that sheild skills isn’t needed for me and I’ll clear it soon. The same can be for dps, as I said before which I have proven if you acquire all the skills in blacksmith (ignoring process) you will still have enough sp for your skills as I have itemized above. As for stating it’s easy use your synth char to add -ve stats since most negative stats implements are not affected by level but rather the stat customization ( someone can correct me if I am wrong) and to clarify I am referring to all % stats , accuracy and dodge at either way not all bs must have tech which imo is a useless stat . For positive stats tech has no bearing only negative ones, so yeah it’s losing it’s worth in my eyes.
     
  8. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    I see -w-; ) ...thing is.. my synth n statter r same :b
    I wanted to clear if my tec>dex could craft too..? [Thats additional 30 (top row 3 bottles for 200 prof l guess? N 25-30 more for crafting too; l wanna craft 1h :’ ]
    I literally..dun wanna make 2 char for something that one could do..mostly

    PS:
    I checked with skill simulator, n it is possible to obtain all required skill while getting primary dps skills as archer or mage (sp in 250s needed) , but!
    ...can tec>dex craft 1h..my main dilemma .-.)
    Dun need insanely high pot or atk..just..good nuff to be used..so..?
     
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  9. Zezusa

    Zezusa Well-Known Member

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    Synth and statter in one is a stretch imo , especially seeing now that your statter needs max bs proficiency to be efficient. Any type of bs can craft any item but pot would be different, so a dex tec crafter making a 1h will have low pot and att 10% by itself consumes a lot so higher the pot the bettter, not saying that u can’t do it with low pot, just saying that it would be more difficult. So if it’s for personal use it should be fine, however when it comes to selling them players normally want the ones with the best pot.
     
  10. Rizer phoenix

    Rizer phoenix Well-Known Member

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    I see!
    Thats what l wanted to know!
    Thanks :3
    (Ik its too much for one char x3 but going through all that effort again is too much @.@; ) l rather try my luck with one x3
    N its for personal use so nu worries l guess xD)
     
  11. The Lost One

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    Tech>Dex == BowGun(Recommended)/Bow
    Luk/Tech>Int== Mage
    Luk>Str== Halberd
     
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  12. LilEmperor

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    The 2 blacksmiths I want are a Body Armor Blacksmith which would be VIT>? (One-Handed Sword+Shield) and a Refiner+Statter Blacksmith which would be TEC>DEX. So I wouldn't be using STR, so would Bow still be preferable? or would Staff be better? (I don't want to craft anything but Body Armor, if I can't craft the BEST equipment, I'm not going to bother with smithing other equipment. I'm just doing Body Armor because everyone no matter the class needs armor.)

    For TECH>DEX you're recommending Bowgun+Shield, or else Bow. So you believe that will have better damage output for leveling than Staff would?
     
  13. Kuroemon

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    I am assuming you are planning to suffer the leveling process with TEC>stat or LUK>stat. But if you don't want to suffer, do try to get free reset(stat) from potum darts (possible but very low chance). The idea is to decide until what level you want your character to be then save aside all possible sp for the skill you want on your LUK or TEC character. Then you level the character using any dps stat distribution with their respective possible skill set(aside from the one you set aside). Then after you reach the decided level you use free reset to distribute the stats accordingly

    Others have stated and explained briefly about what stat distribution to go with what weapon...
    IMO, Halberd is easier to level with STR>LUK to level via free from infester side quest but of course you need the ability to 1 hit kill the 2 monsters about 90% of the time. CF w/ bowgun md @ DEX > LUK can also work but with more stringent requirements (if you have cone horn III you are safe)
     
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    Mage does deal more damage because of the high constant finale has. Tech>Dex is only considered if you are planning on unlock 5 lock Synthesis.

    Bowgun Gains 4 Attack per 1 Dex so it gains more damage than bow tbh if we only focus on Dex stat alone. Just use arrow to increase CF since arrow affects CF damage. The downside of bowgun is the low stability and lower chance to deal ailments.
     
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    Honestly if u have decent gears for tank u can set up your vit>tec and your dex> tec both as tanks, it may be more difficult on the dex but as a semi dps it’s possible, my reason for saying tank is because your damage will suck anyway and plus tanks are always in demand especially at venena, which you’ll be spending most of your time leveling . Even with the semi dps u can swing as dps or tank depending on the need. So don’t limit yourself to dps, there are a wide range of tank combinations that can work
     
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    I see you are trying to cover most production areas, efficiently, and each still with some decent battle capability for reaching future caps. :cool:

    I would suggest to grab one good bow and then use it to level up:
    1. Dex/Tec (alch/synth)
    2. Vit/Dex (tank merc - switch between bg/ice cream knux/barehand depending range/accuracy needs)
    3. Luk/Dex (levels with bow, farms with bg/md)
    4. (optional) Str/Dex (wep BS/atk merc with 2h & sword master stargem)
    For skills, you really only CF, Decoy. Optionals depending on spare SP: Snipe, Quick Aura, brave aura, warcry, GSW
    For Ven Ult, if you are worried about damage, can always wear a pierce set (assassin garb, squirrel tail, handmade cookie) to unlock a bit more damage potential. With this setup, I've never felt like i've been leeching at all at venena ult.

    After this, you only need a Vit/tec char (for arm BS and statting) which you can level as tank with basic tank gear (balanced aggro/hp/resistances).
    Also, for a better atk merc, you could potentially make a str/vit char (equipped with 2h and pure atk gear / played either as another tank or paladin semi dps, or even 2h dps). You would lose ~500 atk on your attacker merc) but gain 20k hp instead going sub vit instead of sub dex (and your merc gear won't need hp xtals so you can add more atk xtals too)
     
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  17. UfuLamb

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    Finale int>tech can be a stater+refiner+synth+4lock+staff crafter.. Since you only need 67 sp for finale and maximizer, if you have queen staff it would be very cheap to build and deals significant dmg compared to other tech builds.

    While cf dex>tech can be a stater+refiner+synth+4lock+bg crafter, that can also make decent pot 1hs, bow and katana, it would be a lot easier to make hp ori, and will have passable dmg in most bosses. If you already have crit gears this would be easy to build.
     
  18. LilEmperor

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    I'm going for these characters
    1. TEC>DEX for Refiner and Statter (so bow works best for this stat distro correct?)
    2. VIT>DEX for Body Armor Blacksmith (I kind of wanted to go One-Handed Sword+Shield with this, is that viable enough?)
    3. LUK>INT for Farmer+Refiner+Tamer (DEX doesn't do anything for farming, LUK refining, or taming right?) So why level with Bow, why not just go full into Mage?
    4. TEC>DEX for Synthesist (and again bow for this one as well? I do want to go for full 5 lock)
     
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    EDIT: will give you a better reply below
     
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    1. Tec>vit for bs refine, statting, synth, armor craft.
    2. Luk> int for bs refine, farmer.
    I only have 2 bs. Work fine.
     

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