Evasion

What attacks can a player evade?
Can we also evade the red attacks?
Can we only evade the normal attacks?
Can we evade blue attacks?
We can only evade phys attcks right?

 

you can evade physical and fractional attacks.
but only from your target enemy, minion's other's attacks cannot be evaded, only dodged.
blue zones and charge type red zones (long linear) cannot be evaded either, but they can be dodged.

 

Thx for the infos. btw only the charged type red zones(linear) attacks are not evadable? but the circle ones can? evasion and dodge are not the same right?? planning to have 30% eva from light armor and guard skills for 2h for suvivability haha or it is not worth it?

 

Model to Light armor reduce guard rate, so better don’t do this. For 2H better go for heavy for more def, or don’t model it to remain the ASPD in normal rate.

 

It will be useloss tho, since i use berserk and rampage that sets def/mdef/dodge to 0. So i think evasion is more viable for 2h since the dmg will be evaded(+ cool animation xD)

 

yes, dodge and evasion are different.
and there are 2 types of linear red zones: line and charge.
line is just a line and can be evaded. charge is also a line, but the enemy moves forward when attacking. that one cannot be evaded.

 

i see so that's how you compare, when the boss is stagnant on its attack it is evaded may it be in a shape of circle/line?

 

Enemy Epicenter = Cannot be Evaded
Player Epicenter = Can be Evaded
Linear = Cannot be Evaded
Single Target Attack = Can be Evaded
Magic Attacks = Cannot be Evaded
Fractionals/Physicals = Can be Evaded

This is the weird part: Red AoEs isn't always physical and Blue AoEs isn't always magical. Both can either be Evaded or not depending on the AoE shape and nature(magic/physical) of the attack.

Yes, I've tried and was able to evade that Blue AoE physical attack that Imitator drops.

Are you sure that Line can be evaded? Can you guide me to an enemy to test. I don't seem to remember ever dodging a Line attack, then again I might not be fighting any monsters with that type of attack.

 

well what i know now maximum evasion just 75%.
even u use gws and another buff for up evasion. the maximum cant over 75% that mean u have chance 4/1 hit. not worth i think. batter up your def so u can survive when u get hit.

even u have a super high damage but u die 1 hit from bos that mean u useless. dps die 1 hit??
well if u solo player that your problem. but when u in pt that make trouble.

but if dev up the evasion cap to 90% that will be another story. or dev give new skill. like shadow clone ( in iruna have that skill) that skill give u more clone to protect u from die 1 hit more low your hp more clone u get. the maximum clone 5 so the eva type still can survive when they cant eved 4/1 hit.

when toram get that skill type. that time eva type will have glory time. but for now batter not

 

Yelb's peck attack is a Line type

 

Impossible.
I would like to see a video.

 

i don't have one

well, it was a long time ago, when yelb was the latest boss.
memories can be deceiving...

what about the nerf of perfect aim?
it used to bypass evasion too, but now it doesn't.

 

Putting defense seems useless as I use rampage+berserk, that's why i'm thinking of putting eva as another kit for survivability, not focusing on it but just to have it for survivability purposes, as for countering the "no defense/mdef" "1hit dmg" I decided to have 10k hp to balance it. So taking evasion would be better since i'll be able to evade the attack(no dmg taken)

Yeah having skill like shadow clone would be good af, easily dies with ailments tho

 

but u planning just have about half eva and some hp pool?
just have 30% eva not wort at all. 3/10 hit = u still get 7 hit. for get maximum eva u need GSW (-400% physical resistance) the damage u get x 4 time. when u use heavy armor type u can minimize damage from zero def on guard.
even im already try to have assasin grab + 15%eva npc grab + knife belt + 10% eva and and guard skill tree on light armor type. still hard to survive.
if you want get 10k hp without xtal armor that mean u need put lot point stat on vit. and reduce your true potential damage on 2hn.
well u can effort all gear by useing
frog hat + 3k hp
armor drop from tapir + 3k hp + ornlaf xtsl 3k hp
cookis talisman + deniela xtal 2k hp.
but still that not worth at all.


every one already suggest u not to take eva. that mean they already know it. why eva now not worth to use.

im already try it. well i m katana user but that just diffrent on weapon and skill

first time i m try to build eva type cuz take alot skill from on dw. and reflex skill give minuse on def but give high eva. and another skill give buff for my attack. and i cant always run away from. red area or blue area from bos skill cuz stuck on combo movement. and always die cuz that.

that why now i use heavy type build. and even i can become semi tank with just 6k hp. and still survive through lot battle

eva movement is really cool yes that true but so hard to eved all boss skill. and the high bos now have
anticipated rate ( you cant avoid it)

if u still think eva is good just watch another theard or see on YouTube

or make new build with main stat agi. like dw or knuckle. that good when combine with eva cuz agi give u dodge chance. when u cant eved you still have probably to dodge the hit.
best way to avoid red area or blue skill from bos or mob is the self control

even i have this sword to back up my hp
i m still thinking make 2hd eva build is a bad choice

 

He can build what he likes. Having rampage would make your defenses 0. He just wants the extra protection that evasion brings. 30% is better than 0. As for the sp investment if it's worth it, that I don't know but if he has enough then why not.

Any 2 handed that doesn't invest in at least 40 - 50 VIT would most likely hit the floor when fighting high difficulty Bosses. York on hard alone hits me for 4k to 6k when rampage is active. Also sacrifising your gear for HP would make you lose more attack than if you invest in VIT than DEX.

My for fun build has 71% Evasion without God Speed Wield or Reflex. Any melee who decides to stack God Speed Wield 3x deserves to die in my opinion.


@XCLS
Investing in too much Evasion would reduce your damage dealing and survival(hp unless you're using Integredar) capabilities in exchange for a somewhat unreliable defense. So do it at your own risk.

 

rip katana gsw

 

If you're good and can manual evade, Zantei, magadachi every hit then it's fine XD.

 

If you use heavy armor, what you seek is the guard rate, not the def (bcs you are bers+ramp user).

Evasion can be usefull but i suggest to use heavy instead. Evasion sometimes cause lag to you and can make you vulnerable to boss s attack (depend on ur smartphone, mine is good enough but, after several patches it becomes more and more laggy, even the screen freeze for <1sec if evasion proc).

You can try heavy armor and invest in vit to reach 10k hp (or with deniala) atk speed should not be a problem since berserk give aspd (or rampage? Dont remember), quick aura is good too. Just a suggestion. Have fun!

 

Guard F**ks up your Auto attack and combos more than evasion, just saying.

 

And evasion can move you to another dangerous spot, just saying.