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Genshin impact vs Toram

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Lucifere, Oct 3, 2020.

  1. Makuura

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    I still don't understand how Genshin Impact managed to hook some top streamers and youtubers to advertise their game.

    To be honest, this kind of advertising bothers me, because I know mobile games/f2p will try to get that huge sum of money back from the player base via some heavy microtransactions when they reach a high number of player. If the game doesn't feature some game-affecting microtransaction now or in the future, then I would be very surprised.
     
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    This, in all fields. Exactly. You dropped this [crown.jpg].
     
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  3. AliceYvne

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    Guess is because of Honkai Impact, this game have huge players.
     
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    Or because its available on every single platform out there which can pull console/pc/mobile user out there at the same time unlike those p2w mobile games thats its a pure scam.
     
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  5. AliceYvne

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    Well that also parts of the reason. Another reason should be because it’s have the same Playstyle like Zelda, but this also cause a another problem for this game. Of course for a real gamer, what important is we LIKE it or not, the rest just ignore.
     
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  6. Azin.

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    Indeed ppl said they copy other said they took inspiration many player doesnt care since they enjoy the game
     
  7. HoboOnline

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    I prefer Breath of The wild to be honest.
     
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  8. Fornjotr

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    Not quite. I'd say Genshin Impact is a photocopy of Breath of the Wild:
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    Breath of the Wild on the left; Genshin Impact on the right.

    You can’t deny it’s a near carbon-copy of Breath of the Wild’s aesthetics; that’d be ignorant. I don’t know where the line should be drawn between inspiration and plagiarism--that’s for the player to decide (and personally, as a Zelda fan, I find it to be the latter). However, the combat system is dissimilar; I’d rather compare it to NieR Automata or Xenoblade Chronicles 2, as both have hack-and-slash and party mechanics.

    I wish Genshin Impact was more original. Having said that, it’s certainly a solid game. I’ll definitely give it a go once it’s released on the Switch.
     
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    So ... with the same logic Zelda BOTW is a copy of Elder Scroll?
     
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    No. They are games with an open world, however they go about it in distinct ways: Breath of the Wild is focused on adventure while Skyrim is focused on RPG (post apocalypse vs. pre apocalypse). A is part of both set B and C, however, B is not a part of set C. Here you're assuming set B is part of set C.

    I'm not arguing Genshin Impact as a whole is a copy of Breath of the Wild--that's ridiculous, however its graphics are eerily similar to Breath of the Wild's, not to mention enemy design. It's not as though cel-shading hasn't been done before, however not in the way Nintendo had done it. It looks like a discount Breath of the Wild, ultimately.
     
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    You guys are arguing for baseless comparison uwu toram is better then any game I can imagine ... I am am 22 years old gamer so GI seems like a game for little kids to me ... Well sorry to Gl fans but really Toram is like a diamond which will shine with little effort .... And Gl is like a limited addition art which will become boring soon after few months ('-' me playing toram like 4 year's now still grinding like forever @_@ ... So it hurts when ppls talk nonsense when they don't even understand what there saying.
     
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    Until Toram next event still got 1-2 week, so ppl here just try to get something else to do before the event. Don’t be too serious.
     
  13. Spanish Bread

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    It'll all just come down to preference really. Two are different games. One is an instanced world MMO and one is more like of a lobby simulator. While I haven't even tried GI. I'm more likely to go with the one without ridiculous gacha and prompts kernel access. Especially on a game affiliate with Chinese.
     
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    I like them both for different reasons but I play Genshin Impact more since I have been playing Toram Online on and off for 5 years, since it's first official release during summer 2015.

    So far I've used thousands of my countrys currency on Toram Online but 0 on Genshin Impact. GI has enough gameplay to ignore paying at all. And so does Toram but in my opinion and experience of playing GI everyday since launch day on September 28th to October 5th GI is a bit better in that regard as it gives even more materials to do gacha for free than Toram has ever done.

    Toram: Can only open 10x chests, avatar or not, maybe only once or twice a year at most with all the free orb shards from events and apologies. (Avatar tickets can only open 1x chests...)

    Genshin Impact: If one play a lot one can open 10x character or weapon wishes If not everyday at least every 2 days.

    Well, one of the reasons might be because GI came out now during a time when I have no income and I'm going tight this month with income coming back in November so even if I wanted to spend I can't.
     

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  15. SirDex

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    The games are completely different. Genshin is a single player game while toram is a multiplayer game so toram allows us to:

    play with friends who are only our friends when they need help leveling because the friends they care about are offline or busy,
    or they need an xtal for enhancement,

    join a dead guild where the leader harasses you to recruit people like you their employee and then kicks you and blames you because the guild didn't surpass his/her projected expectations,
    or a guild that is full drama because toram to some is more serious than real life itself and people think they are in some sort of John Wick styled anime script,

    have an online waifu who's likely a man using his sisters or girlfriends pictures and his name is punjab chetty and being a woman and having another trap as a husband is his fantasy,

    join random salty parties where people bitch at you and tell you not to use war cry or revive anyone so they can get support rank even though the entire party is dead,
    And so many other great multiplayer facets genshin does not possess.

    While genshin doesn't have any of this player to player interactive entertainment, it has co-op mode but it's very disappointing and lack luster.
    But as a single player game I think it's amazing and as aggressive as the gacha in the game is don't be fooled by it, you can play it perfectly fine as a free to play person.
    The youtubers promoting the game and the 5 star heroes and them getting those 5 star elements of the game with titles like "100$ can you believe my luck" is just subliminal marketing to make people spend and think they will have the same luck, just don't.

    I've taken a break from toram because they never adding new ideas or fixing major issues like botting and modding,
    Bots aside even if they add new content it feels the same as the old content, you know kill a boss or farm a mob over and over blah blah and nothing different so I got tired of the game and been playing some genshin which has been refreshing, being a newb in games is always the most nostalgic and best times for me personally.

    So the games are nothing alike and both are good if you are new to the game, but being an old toram player and feeling nothing new with the game for a while now has made made me step away a bit,
    it will always be my love but it just needs to evolve a bit, try something unconventional instead of the same thing over and over.

    Anyway my thoughts.

    P.S If you reading this Punjab I miss you. *nhgnmmmmm*
     
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    This could easily be a sincere advertisment for toram
     
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    Ironically true lmao
     
  18. Sakuraid

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    Let me add one thing with a quote of my own post. As you can see I got Venti who is a 5 star character from the game and as I added in the quoted post I have spent 0 on the game. My twin sister got him too so the chances to get him isn't too bad.
     
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    Disclaimer: This is pure speculation.

    I’ve played Honkai Impact 3rd, Genshin Impact’s predecessor. It has a similar free-to-play model and proved to be incredibly fair, however, that’s where the positives end. The endgame content is considerably difficult to complete with subpar characters and gear; a meta certainly exists and progression becomes incredibly stagnant once you’ve reached endgame (you could only pull once or twice a week if you’re actively playing the game). Granted, it is a great game for casual players, since this sort of system is geared towards it, however, if you wish to play competitively, you’ll find that it’s quite restrictive and certain competitive modes to be outright unplayable as a free-to-play player. I’m concerned Genshin Impact will follow a similar path, and frankly, I wouldn't be too surprised if it does.
     
  20. Sakuraid

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    I haven't played Honkai Impact 3rd but yeah endgame can become possible if that strategy was effective to rake in money in that game. If it wasn't that effective they could always use a more free2play friendly method or they will come with another way to rake in the money. They obviously like any other game developer and buissnessmen in general want to rake in enough money to pay fro the production of the produkt. Right now they seam to be doing this quite well using streamers but depending how this develops they might have to go like Honkai Impact 3rd. It all depends on how much sales they get as they close in on endgame which might only be in YEARS. So the speculation is only for an event that would happen depending on how things develop into the far off future.
     

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