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God-Hand Build

Discussion in 'Brawler' started by Shivael, Jan 7, 2018.

  1. Shivael

    Shivael Well-Known Member

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    Aggravate add attack as almost same number as your auto attack .., its sad that with Int as our main stat, our basic attack will not dealt as much damage as normal brawler..

    hidden arm basically use only for add fixed damage of attack, and breaker rank stealer...
     
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    All good... basically you can save on 10 SP by not maxing Hidden Arm and Intense Knife now. =P
     
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    How do i increase the proc rates of additional magic and attack?
     
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    it shame that currently we cant do anything with the proc rate..,

    maybe dev will add some skill that increase the proc rate (?) :(
     
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    This is along the lines of what Im planning since Im a fan of ASPD characters which this game doesnt really like. haha. Anyways, theres more room for Add magic than Melee? Have you tried this with Katana?

    Godspeed + Flash Blast + Meikyo makes ur attack deal crit all the time and that you have added Unsheathe damage which all ur attacks are.
     
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    Boosted autos (via unsheath kat) to accompany add magic/attack procs is an interesting idea. You would lose out on aggravate (knux) and hidden knife (dagger) extra attacks, but probably the dmg from single autos would make up for it. What about the gear for this kind of setup though, which stats would you prioritze (atk vs aspd vs cdmg vs unsheath vs hp)? At least crits won't be an issue with meikyo katana. :)

    Power wave may also be helpful because with meikyo buff up, as your def is reduced. Without huge amounts of hp, auto-ing from farther away would be easier.
     
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    Shivael Well-Known Member

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    even with crit , maybe our crit damage not gonna dealt much damage anyway.., (i mean we only had about 600 ATK which is really low in comparassion :"

    **hmm magic katana build huuh .-. that's interesting but i guess because katana already had low weapon atk in the first place, maybe we will even more suffer in term of ATK ...


    maybe u want to try this variant of build .. (more focus on damage of auto attack than magical damage proc)
    http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/low-stat-but-jack-of-all-trade-red-mage-build.36109/
     
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    Actually. reason for meikyo is for full crit so that you wont miss. You can still take dagger though or knuckles but preferably dagger since aggravate and strong chase only works if main weapon. Right? yes. Power Wave is also there but Im thinking of going with Reflex and Flash Blast for more dangerous gameplay.
     
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    Haha I always welcome anyone willing for 'dangerous gameplay' :p. Don't forget that evasion won't help you against magic AOEs. Good luck!

    I think 2-handed passive (only 5 more points to max if you already have meiko) would be better than wasting 20+ SP on dagger passives, and the dmg gain may be much higher. But you wouldn't be able to compete for breaker ranks without mail breaker from dagger tree.
     
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    Wouldnt Hidden Arm, being another damage source, increase the probability of ur Add Magic to happen?
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    I'll try later what happens if u have Power Wave while using Katana. If u'll be side stepping, That would be awesome to look at. lol.
     
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    Nope, thats just additional dmg too, its all based on the autoattack
     
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    Oh. next question would be.. would Add Magic gain bonus from Unsheathe? like.. since Unsheathe stat increases Unsheathe attack damage, and that all normal attacks with Katana are that, would it increase ur Matk in some way?

    Also.. 2s Ice Katana with Death Colon and Lapin would work? -2k MP, +1k ASPD. just use MP pot to offset it.
     
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    Nope unsheathe doesnt affect it as additional magic is purely based on matk, the only things u can do to increase the dmg is either get more matk, more additional magic%, and proration, but autoattacks takes care of that anyway, also dc would only increase ur autoattack dmg if below 8m
     
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    Death Colon oncrease ASPD by 1k and -2k mana. as for Unsheathe, then that removes it from being good with Katana? But since of u dont hit the enemy, Add Magic wont proc.. would still make Meiyk useful since 100 crit wont miss = chance to proc?
     
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    It wont afaik, unsheathe is still a decent stat for katana but if u wanna make the most of it the sub equipment slot should be empty and if u have the 2 handed skill lvl10, meikyo is still decent unless u have around 80%+ chance to crit then i wouldnt use it or just have it at a lower lvl
     
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    Sorry it was really terrible, i keep on correcting. Lol. Well, DC's 1k ASPD is the only reason why we'd take it anyways. Combine it with Lapin for Add Magic.
     
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    So.. a little theory crafting, forcing that Death Colon into the build for +1k ASPD. Giga Speed potion for more ASPD.

    Thoughts? Oh and.. Katana sucks since it barely adds MATK, Knuckles adds 4(?) per INT.

    1 MP bar is more than enough for someone to be creative with their skills. This would mainly be used for buffs.

    EDIT: Also, posting this here for future referencing if ever I get my hands on some bazillion Spinas.
     

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    A veteran once posted: while using death colon u will maintain 1mp bar no matter what (i never tried, u could using -mp xtals)

    I'm not sure what happens if u drink magiadd V though, goes to 6bars?
     
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    if u will be maintaining 1mp even with -2k via death colon. the magiadd wont be needed or same with Ifrid. you can swap Ifrid for Iconos or some +Matk xtas. and if this hold true, then using magiadd would be useless since u'll be "paying" for the negatives anyways? or.. yeah, it could go up to 6bars but i doubt it because it says -2k MP and not down to 100 MP.
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    sure do hope someone thay has one, actually tries. for some reason, Death Colon xtas are 5mil a piece.
     
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    Yeah i tried farming it before, no luck. It will be an amazing xtal for a merc, but the price is steep!

    There's some merit to a build that focuses more on autos (like a 'manual merc' lol), regardless of the dmg it does. By not mindlessly spamming combos like everyone else in (random) boss pts, I've seen clear times reduce by as much as a half (but you also drop out of the attacker-rank game this way). With meikyo katana, it easily solves the accuracy problem (and aspd too with that +1k aspd npc weapon!), but you won't have much else you can do unlike say a brawler, who can also interrupt bosses for breaking. As a mage autobot, you could also help with something like bless and further (magic) proration for the sea of kat spammers out there.

    But then again, with kat (and power wave) you would be an awesome getsuga tensho-ing speedster with high ampr, so you could freely run in and drop zantei's/hasshos (100% crit) whenever u see a good proration opportunity for dps, and then back off safely again to recharge. This idea maybe works better solo, with tank mercs though, or longer boss fights.
     
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