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Hybrid Class Help

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Argo, Jul 2, 2015.

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  1. Xejso<3

    Xejso<3 Active Member

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    haha didn't think i would ever see Ragnarok mentioned here i still play a Monk(Sura), Hunter(Ranger), and Assassin(Guillotine Cross) on there..

    But Hybrids are good soon i'm going to be testing a "Combo Monk" type brawler utilizing the priest skills. The only problem with hybrids at the moment is the lack of levels but in most games i played Hybrids turn out to be the best builds due to versatility
     
  2. Lucifere

    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    The prob of the hybrids as i said if they can be better than the common classes.If we had like bunshin no jutsu or stone skin like enchanter on iruna we would have mage ninja warrior enchanter...But some people let hybrids on very bad position cuz they think the idea would work and then on the field their managed on bosses farming etc its very bad.
     
  3. Kanameru

    Kanameru Well-Known Member

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    Personally, I enjoy trying out different things, so my builds end up being kinda messy... Like my main has Shot, Magic, Dagger, Priest, and Survival (only for drop rate). My second character has Martial, Blade, Dagger, Survival (only for drop rate), and Alchemist. I... Will be murdered in my sleep by Faust if I mention the stats, but here I go anyways! xD 1:2 INT:DEX on my main and 1:2 DEX:LUK on my second char. Well my second char isn't level 40 yet, so no LUK to distribute to.

    My main character takes the role of a tank in the party. That means that magic tends to not work out so well... However, the Magic: Arrows > Power Shot (Swift) combo is amazing. Also Arrows is basically free damage if you're being chased by a boss. You don't have to wait there to get all your attacks in. You can just run in circles and cast it when the boss is stuck in an attack. I've found Arrow Rain to be particularly useless 'cause, as the tank, monsters be chasing me all day and I'm not all that tanky so I have to run away. Because of that, the rain of arrows... Misses my target. ._. I switch out my equipment fairly often, especially for MP Charge to go faster. As everyone says, Wall is useful for farming. Basically... I won't out-damage a pure INT mage. I won't out-tank a pure tank build, obviously. I'm probably not the best at farming, either. However, I can perform those roles and it works out. Besides, isn't it awesome to be able to shoot a bunch of arrows at your enemies and blast them away with magic?

    My second character is just weak. xD Prolly not gonna go with the sword/knuckles, especially 'cause I already decided to go pure AGI. The idea behind this one is more of... My party needed a breaker constantly... So I figured my second char should be one. I saw lots of breaking skills in the sword tree and I thought that was awesome. xD I had decided on knuckles already and knew that knuckles could be equipped on sub. So... But then the stats are completely different between the two and I thought it'd be a good idea to raise AGI instead of DEX or whatever when my main hand equip was going to be a sword? ._. Either way, I don't care all that much. Still having fun slashing and punching mobs to death. On that note, do all knuckle skills scale off AGI or do they scale off ATK?
     
  4. Monochrome

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    Brawler skills scale off your current ATK.
    Your ATK is based on your main weapon.
    Equipping knuckle as main weapon, you get ATK from AGI.
    Also note that skills can deals damage fully only when you have the weapon matching the skill as your main weapon or sub weapon.

    I recommend you to use 1h-sword as main weapon,
    knuckle as sub weapon,
    so that both your blade and brawler skill will be able to work fully and appropriately.

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    Max out DEX for damage.
    AGI gives you ASPD(+4.2ASPD/AGI) almost as much as knuckle(+5ASPD/AGI)
    Also VIT increases your HP the most when you're equipped with 1h-sword (same as 2h-sword and knuckle).

    If you prefer high speed attack with low damage like brawlers normally do, try Brutal Dragon Sword and Quick Ring. You can max your ASPD with these two and equip the rest equipments as you want.

    Dealing Damage: //Faust's is the best imo
    Hard Hit + Astute (smite) + Trigger Slash (consecutive)

    Breaking: //make sure to have Flinch effect first, then Tumble, and finally Stun.
    Smash + Sonic Wave + Bash + Trigger Slash
    (all consecutive)
    Add more 1mp skill with consecutive to reduce the MP cost even more.

    Hybrid classes normally have less dps than pure class, but with various abilities. That's common sense.
    If dealing damage is not your highest priority, I think hybrid is not that bad.

    This is just an advice. No need to follow.

    Sorry for my bad English
     
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    Oh... Well, then. I might re-stat or something. Haha. We'll see, we'll see... Thanks for the info, though. I'm not really having any problems without the sword, though, so... Except I guess knuckles are ugly. ._. I designed my character around being a sword user. >.< Yeah, these are the problems I have with a weak character. The better setup is ugly. xD
     
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  6. Sheele

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    Do dex type get crit stat?
     
  7. Argo

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    Do you mean dex staff user? Also, don't get crit if you use magic.
     
  8. Sheele

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    No dex type warrior do they get crit stat points?
     
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    Warrior-Mage? Or just regular warrior
     
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    Warrior 1hswords man .. Regular ^_^
     
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    This is Hybrid Class help not regular class help tho....
    Ok it depends on your build. If you want a higher dps choose crit.
     
  12. Sheele

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    Thats damage per second right?. If all dex what its stat? Attkspeed?
     
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    Thats damage per second right?. If all dex what its stat? Attkspeed?
     
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    Thats damage per second right?. If all dex what its stat? Attkspeed?
     
  15. Mugami

    Mugami Well-Known Member

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    I love my brawler mage. It can tank well. It can spam break combos. And it's above average dps.
    I made a brawler mage guide. Look it up. You may find it interesting to try.
     
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    Alright, I'll check it out
    Do you have the link?
     
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    1st, hybrids do work if you know what yer doing. 2nd, need 1 stat to be a major stat that works for all of yer skils. My MagiKnight build.
    Magic
    Arrows 5pt, Javelin 5pt, lance 5pt, impact. 10pt, Power charge 10pt, Magic Mastery. 10pt. 45 pts
    Knight
    Assault Attack 5pts, Parry 10pts. 15pts
    Sheild
    Shield Mastery 5pts, Force Shield 10pts. (500hp), Sheild Bash 10pts. 25pts
    Preist
    Bless 5pts (i never use it), Glory 10pts, Holy fist (weapon dmg + magic atk) 10pts. 25pts.
    Gear
    Roga staff
    Relief Shield
    White sliver necklace
    Orcacle Robes (heavy) k-coat app
    Philosophers ring
    Stats
    Dex 40 (for sure hit)
    Rest to intel.
    Combo
    Assult, impact(smite), holy fist, shield. bash(con), lance(con). Run off n charge.
     
  19. Samm

    Samm Well-Known Member

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    This game ISN'T iruna. Neither is it a sequel to iruna. This game is made for hybrids, iruna is not made for hybrids.
    An impact sniper is a hybrid.
    A long range melee 2h sword user is a hybrid.
    A 1h sword uset who uses bless is a hybrid.
    These are skills taken from another 'class'.

    Iruna's design is 'class based' as you can only learn skill with in that class. Don't lump toram together. You may be in the wrong forum if you are using iruna's game design as a discussion topic haha XD

    I believe it's intentional for the devs to place skills like quick draw and impact as tier 3 skills (to make you 'waste' points) to design your char according to your play style.. this causes the player to think thru very carefully before committing points. Of course in a business sense, it's also how toram earns money thru the very expensive resets (skill/stat resets)

    There are many good guides that feature hybrid classes that give a unique name to those 'bunch of [useless]->[well thought out] skills thrown together which people call hybrids'.

    To each his own. I'll salute anyone who didn't use any other skill trees except the starter ones. Those are the true blue non-hybrids (of course that wont be utilising the fullest extent of torams gameplay)

    I'm a fan of toram simply cos it allows me to deviate from the boring 'classes' and create our own char 'class' suited to our own playstyle. Discussing hybrids and new ideas also keeps this forum alive^^
     
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    Samm Well-Known Member

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    My hybrid mage/brawler/sniper (yes this is one character) takes 3 ranks 80% of the time, and I'm just doing the normal thing and not trying to steal ranks XP
    20% goes to really good players I've encountered, all of them being hybrids.
     
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