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I don't understand WHY C999 is the best for BG user ?

Discussion in 'Hunter' started by jessy, May 12, 2016.

  1. jessy

    jessy New Member

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    Everybody in this forums always talk about c999 is the best state for bowgun user
    Every bowgun on border are C999
    C999 = critical +9, critical damage +9, credit rate +9 (2 critical )

    Sorry for all the C999 user. no offense.
    Sorry for my ignorance, I just don't understand

    weapon + armor : you got 4 more critical point , 18 critical damage

    My question is : all the critical / critical damage are depends on your persona ATK
    if your personal ATK high, your critical damage will be high,
    even some time you don't get critical during the combat
    if you don't have any personal critical point, 9%critical only give you 2 critical point
    if your personal critical point increase to 34 critical point, 9% critical still only give you 2 critical point .

    My personal recommendation best state for weapon and armor
    Weapon 52 pot = Atk 4%, Critical +9, Dex 1% (clean and easy 79% success )
    Armor = Atk 4%, Critical 9 (not easy but it's worthy, best armor for 2H/ 1H/ DW, Brawler)

    Because A4% at the present time have no upper limit
    (weapon ATK, character level, define level will continue to increase)
    Even you don't get critical during combat, your damage still pretty high (8% atk and +1% dex )
    especially now everyone can define +C, +B is not difficult, +A/+S if you have enough luck with HP.hammer

    For bowgun user, we can't never make it too 100% critical like 2H
    especially for -25% critical penalty for sniper
    why you chase for 4 more critical and 18 credit damage instant of 8% ATK and 1%dex
    do you know, no critical =no critical damage
    WHY waste your valuable spina on some weapon and armor doesn't make you stronger ?
     
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  2. hippotamamus

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    Um, cuz c999 sound so awesome? o_O
     
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  3. minoer

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    Agree
     
  4. Groot

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    atk% doesnt scale with refine level while cd flats do (cos crit damage scales with total atk)
    atk% is stronger up to +E or +D but definitely not +C or +B
    cd flats are extremely pot efficient --> 3pot/point
    atk4%crit9dex1% is pretty good but say dex2%cd9crit9 or atk2%cd9crit9 definitely better

    c999 is default easy to make and reliable so a lot of people use these
     
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    @jessy want to test your ATK%'s vs my C999 set? The results will clarify this.
     
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    I wanna see the result :)
     
  7. KereHore

    KereHore Well-Known Member

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    Count me in :D
     
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    Precaria gonna kick some butt here
     
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    So .. what's the result? :cool:
     
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    Precaria Precariø ♂ Retired IG Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor

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    It might not be easy though xD blacksmiths usually have the best gears in the game. I'm just a poor xtal hunter with donated gears. :3
    It seems she hasn't been online, let's wait.
     
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  11. Pankeiks

    Pankeiks Well-Known Member

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    You can say this if you have a guaranteed crit like triple kick, however I would change your atk% increase for dex or str % increase. Now, bg as bow lacks crit chance, snipe is a nuke, so what happens if that nuke crits? More damage, it sounds logical. There is a lot of details xd
     
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    ^This is what I always figured.
    When it comes to storm, it makes sense to increase damage since magic can't miss and storm hits multiple times rather than just once (Also, mages can't crit apparently).
    When it comes to snipers, it'll all goes into one powerful hit, so you better make sure it's a critical hit.
     
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    I would say there is no best armour, not even c999 or atk4% c.dmg9, for a snipe i personally prefer atk4% c.dmg+9 for armour and revolver for weapon, its low stability i know but it doesnt have the crit penalty other bg's give because it has +25c.rate, tho for 2h i use a boss version plate armour which is the right armour for me
     
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    As what I've read in some old thread, magic do actually crit(spell burst) if you have Concentrate from Battle skill. Anyone pls correction me w/this if im wrong cause im not really sure xD
     
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  15. KereHore

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    good...then try to Roga or another Fire element boss and see what damage u can get ....

    :D:D:D
     
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    Still over 120k for same element, havnt farmed roga with snipe yet, but still the dmg is decent when using all mp100
     
  17. KereHore

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    :rolleyes::rolleyes: any proof.....
     
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    I do 168k+ at my current lvl and when i farmed mw on snipe i was lvl 60 and hit 100k, now lvl 81 so take 25% from 168k
     
  19. KereHore

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    :D still it will be unwise choice if rely on Revolver...25 crit ( it's good but not affected to much ),and beside that stab is poor ( 25% ) i have Revolver too ( dont get me wrong i like this Gun too ) but if u used that in every boss...i wonder what will happend :D:D ,my opinion for now i stick with C999 ,but it i believe Element is the key ( for now we have 2 item that can be craft ) i the end i believe will be Element (awaken) +8% strong to.... or another stat ( depend on ur build )
     
  20. KereHore

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    once more.... if 168k at Pillar Golem ( of course every Gunner know how to make a great Damage on that Pillar ) ...so its standard :rolleyes:
     

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