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Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Kimesato, Aug 31, 2015.

  1. Kimesato

    Kimesato Elite Member Elite Member

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    Tka we talking about mobile market xD not Pc xD
     
  2. Illua

    Illua Active Member

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    Well in o&c you can buy characters up to level 60 and even buy ingame gold so how is this not pay2win?

    Besides these to you can buy items/mounts and so on which you couldn't or most likely never get without
     
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  3. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    And u can also buy crafting exp, also I can either farm for months for mats to craft epic gear or just buy them. Seriously, mats for end game gear should not be BUYABLE!
     
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  4. Takanori-kun

    Takanori-kun I can heal impurities Elite Member

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    amen.
     
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  5. Kimesato

    Kimesato Elite Member Elite Member

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    Thats why I like Toram, and that why I want Toram to have PvP, so it can be complete. Focusing a game on PvE only would force it to just be boring as fk.

    WE WANT PVP!!!
     
  6. Illua

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    Well, we do want that indeed BUT-

    A good challenging raid would do wonders about your boredom. Just think of a complex boss mechanic with adds (additional small boss monsters) having their own mechanics again.

    FFXIV lives from pve but it's still amazing due to its complexity. In fact even though the pvp sucked before heavensward and literally no one played pvp it was still my most favorite mmorpg of all time (even though I need pvp so bad in most games)
     
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  7. Blaze

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    That was Beautiful :D Bravo! WELL PUT!
     
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  8. Illua

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    I'll sign that as sarcasm... XD
     
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    Completely agree
     
  10. Blaze

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    Actually no thay was sincerity I freaking love complex raids. Like guild dungeon in galaxy frontier. That game had no pvp but still had rank based on guild dungeon time. We would compete for miliseconds to beat the other teams. I really love a good raid.
     
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  11. Illua

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    I just remember the good ol' times before i sold my computer to lay my depths..

    I was part of a static (8 man raid group with additional 4 members in case someone can't join) and we beat the coil of bahamut t13 as the first party on our server, these are glorious feelings lol
     
  12. Blaze

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    Right with pvp you can't fight something that no one else can beat. Doing a raid and being able to be the first to beat a raid is something just freaking awesome, that I don't think some people will understand. With Pvp Its mostly on the spot and some prep. With raids you can prep for a week or more just for a 20 minute raid. Raids can be more fun and frustrating then pvp ever has been for me.
     
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  13. Illua

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    For some raids it took us about a month to fully understand the mechanics of a 10-15minute fight. We had to focus on each second, if someone died the whole party wiped. But the feeling of success, everybody screams in happiness as the boss dies :D

    However i freaking love pvp why i played gamed like blade and soul or elsword, even metin2 as kid (god that game sucks balls). Or many other pvp related titles.

    So both seeing a good arena with reworked skills and good thoughts and some complex boss fights would be amazing on toram. Now difficulty is all about 'evasion, it hits hard, it has many hp'
     
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    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Heh, imagine a 15~20 min boss battle with the drop rate of eerie boss. I think I would need to re call my therapist then ....
     
  15. Illua

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    It's obvious that a complex fight should get really good rewards compared to a 3 seconds fight.

    Though that could mean that people will pay for boss runs.. That's not unusual
     
  16. Kimesato

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    Well said mate, Honestly Raids are fun, but frustrating as fk, honestly speaking.
    While pvp shoes the true colors of a player, how much they invested or worked on their builds, or how well made or worked is their teamwork with their 2-4 man team.
    Raids is just meh... Challenge accepted, lets go, kill boss, done, yay nice drops!.
    PvP is... "waffle you, you think u the shit eh? come gettit waffle" 10 mins later "Shine ma shoes mofo!! eat my left overs!!"

    kakakaka you know what I mean.
     
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  17. Takanori-kun

    Takanori-kun I can heal impurities Elite Member

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    Kime you're gonna get banned xD so many swear words LOL
     
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    Kimesato Elite Member Elite Member

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    You are right Ima lower the cursing lol....
     
  19. ßëäsT MødĒ

    ßëäsT MødĒ Well-Known Member

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    Nah bud, I have 5 full pro s4/t4 toons in O&C and only spent like 15$ on the game for a simple name change and characer spots, it requires no $$ at all especially now that they have lottery which let's you open all 3 chests , now we have fresh noobs running around with scanners and full craft sets. This is a game that requires patience you don't expect to become pro in a week, takes time.
     
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    ßëäsT MødĒ Well-Known Member

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    It litterly completely free no $$ needed. They got lotteries that have a pretty solid chance to give you every single thing that people used to buy with cash items, and even when they didn't have them you could earn everything in game with time in patience.. The only thing spending money in this game did is speed up what you could already do in like an extra week or so
     
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