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Idea about pvp

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Craft099, May 24, 2020.

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  1. Kaisyl

    Kaisyl Elite Member Elite Member

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    Builds being different isn't the problem, it is accomodation for it that is which is what many arguments for PvP tend to forget to indicate how it would be.

    As for the second point, what do you think PvP is? What I've said is literally how PvP would work. It's no different than just aiming for attacker rank in this game.
     
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  2. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    those players are more like having the over powered equipments with who will deal more damage by spamming skills to get attacker rank which is not new even on a random party.

    If your gear sucks you are not going to win.

    The real PvP is all about having the same stats and all it matters is skills and who's going to get outwitted in the end.

    I missed GrandChase PvP. Imo, that was one of the balanced pvp I have ever played.
     
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  3. Amaymon

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    The very first lesson I was taught back then, is you let your enemy take the aggro accidentally early on and watch him drop dead, or lure the boss and let it help you kill your competition. And then clear the boss alone when competition is having a nap.
     
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  4. Phoenix。

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    PvP is about outplaying your opponent, not dealing the most damage. Crowd Control, self heals, status ailments get a whole new relevance
     
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    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    I am really frustrated as to how these PvP tournaments works like that House of Bets or something. No one should use gears which exceeds to your opponent, that is already like cheating wtf. Gears should have set weapon attack, refine, stat like:

    Only use specific weapon with 277 attack +B exceeding that is not allowed and stats with a5s7cd7cdcr20 with bearhat and hallucination spore but xtals is limited only not beyond Ganglef chapter or something and all gears should be 1S. Like that kind of rules.

    Someone held a tournament before using only tier 2 skills and gears available at smith npc below lvl 90 with xtals not beyond Mask Warrior, no player craft allowed. Too bad he cancelled the event for unknown reason.
     
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    Dude the players i mentioned have all same gears it all boils down to skills and if ur thinking all it takes to tap one button then well i can lend u my elem gears and then u can challenge them if u win i will agree with u especially the dws who can literally tank ultimate bosses while being dps atk break support at same time.
     
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    Boring I've read better condom/skin creme threads on this forumns.
    If you are gonna suggest pvp at least suggest some ideas how u can implement pvp how server load will be handled how arena will be designed what should be skill composition and so on.
     
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  8. WindSlash

    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    Speaking of status ailments, how would those even work in a PvP setting?
    Frankly, I don't like the odds of any builds that depend on CC coz most of the Flinch, Tumble, Stun and Stop skills that are almost insta-cast are all close-to-mid range skills.

    As long as your DW enemy is spamming the evade button, you'll either get evaded, or you'll keep chasing for a whole while until they run out of evasion charges which when they do get to that point, they can Storm Reaper and Backstep away, and buy time with combos that have Phantom Slash. And then they'll kill you w/ a random Flash Blast proc. =m=

    If your enemy is an Archer, any close>mid range character build will get kited to death with Kick, Back Step, and Moeba Shot. And since they have naturally would have QuickDraw, MP is not really an issue for them.


    Then again, saying all these also made me realize that the servers are also gonna have to be responsible to relay even more game state data like status ailment acquisition during battles, status heals, and ofc, damage mitigation upon having your attack getting evaded. That's even more data that servers are gonna have to process and send back to players of one instance of pvp.

    The more we discuss this, the more software architectural issues i find. xD

    PS if pvp is not limited to 1v1, a 4v4 pvp is gonna get dominated by full DW parties. They just Shukuchi in, Binding Strike everyone then Flashblast, THEN spam the evade button till the enemy team dies. If a straggler is left, you Phantom Slash them to death. :V
     
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    pvp pet maybe is good (pet only AI) you just gonna watch those 2 pet in battle arena
     
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  10. The Lost One

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    pvp pight be possible as to how they introduce black knight mini game mechanic.

    It is more like tekken/street fighter style lol
     
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    Kinda amused that it's been like more than a decade and toram community still doesn't want new content besides slaving away for spina.

    Toram is already set up for an amazing top tier pvp content. Variety of ailments, mechanics, playstyle and builds. A little balancing(pvp only adjustment) if things gets out of hand. Ta dah, no more bitchy bitchy
     
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  12. WindSlash

    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    Try again dude. Alpha wasn't even more than 6 years ago.

    Toram being already set to be a "top tier" pvp game doesn't mean the devices we are holding are capable of doing the same thing as consoles and PCs. Those machines are able to transmit and process highly complex data sets and still have their game running optimally.

    Most of the appeal of Toram is its visuals and gameplay customization. Both will suffer in most devices with an introduction of PvP with the current combat system. The game will be laggy, and there absolutely will be idiots that will go "these 3/4/5 builds are the best builds in the game, if you not using it, you a noob and trash"
     
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    Pfft that was balanced? Game was proof that having a broken mess could be fun as hell tho with a good community.
     
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  14. The Lost One

    The Lost One THOT BEGONE AGENT Elite Member

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    Imo yeah? no armor involved and just weapon. You can't win the fight just by spamming tho so I find it good?
     
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    This community is happy with doing the same stuff for 6 years and are butthurt as soon as someone suggest smth new. Nothing you can do there
     
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    Huh. people have been clamoring for PvP since Beta, which was 5 years ago. This issue is so old now that even if we somehow get a PvP feature, people will not consider it as "something new", but a long overdue thing; And the PvP advocates are just gonna be salty to the devs for taking so long despite the technological hurdles the devs had to tackle. If I was in their shoes, I wouldn't be enthused about doing the work that would not be appreciated either, lol.


    And mind you, people aren't content with the "same thing for 6 years" the devs have promised so many things that aren't in the game yet, that most of us non-pvp minded players just want the promises to be kept! 3 years ago, there was talks about mounts and that was when they also talked about pets. Where are they now? Who knows when they'll come out. The expanded guild features are also a long awaited thing, it has been in "planning" since after the 2nd new year event, and they're only being implemented now.

    Honestly, that's just the tip of the iceberg. We long-time non-pvp users have more beef w/ the devs than being "butthurt" with some guys who are insisting on getting their pvp.
     
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  17. UfuLamb

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    One skill beats all, death by shield cannon!!!

    This skill has the longest range, and with the revamped dmg yall gonna die by homing shields... Evade one and i can still spam dis sheit 9times.

    Now how bout i perma block with guard strike? Imma just turtle my way out dis sheit yow...

    Now tell me how ya'll gonna beat this homing piece of meat grinder? Ya'll thinkin bout all tis weapon skills when turtle boi and captain america will smash yer dingus with them shields...

    Anyway i just have one opinion on this...
    PVP sux
     
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  18. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    Lol since time in memorial they don't fix the elevation bug yet, instead they just dump a new skill to divert the issue.
     
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  19. Kaisyl

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    Lol new players don't know how painful it is to watch a mob sit 1cm below your AoE and laugh at you nowadays :s
     
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  20. Phoenix。

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    Well if they are not able to release more than the tip of the iceberg in 6 years...
     

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