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Idea for an extremely challenging boss

Discussion in 'Toram Online General Discussions' started by Takata, Apr 29, 2023.

  1. Takata

    Takata Active Member

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    Boss fights are fun when they are challenging so i thought why not come up with an idea for one!





    Boss: The Embodiment of The Supreme Void





    Boss HP depending on difficulties, easy: 470 million, normal: 47 billion, hard: 470 trillion, nightmare: 470 Octillion, semi-ultimate: 470 duodecillion, ultimate: Immeasurable





    Boss battle patterns: random omnidirectional light blue energy waves that instantaneously consumes your's/entire party's mp to 0 and your's/entire party's hp to 1 simultaneously at the same time throughout battle at random followed with guaranteed ailment of stun to you/entire party, unleashes countless light purple lasers fired from above throughout the battle field with countless large wide red attack zones that appears and disappears as briefly as an extremely bright flash of light before the instant activation of the countless light purple lasers each of which deals 777 million to Immeasurable magical damage to you/entire party depending on difficulty, teleports frequently, teleports to you/entire party and instantaneously unleashes 10 Immeasurably fast punches and kicks each dealing 777 million to Immeasurable physical damage to you/entire party depending on difficulty, movement speed is Immeasurably fast capable of traveling and crossing the distance of the entirety of large battle fields instantaneously, random omnidirectional dark purple energy waves that each deals ailments of burn/blind/paralyze/freeze/poison/weaken/stun/stop/sleep/curse/mana explosion simultaneously at the same time including 120% fractional damage to you/entire party, random omnidirectional dark purple energy fins that each deals guaranteed fatal damage to you/entire party, random omnidirectional golden energy waves that each drastically reduces your's/entire party's atk/matk and physical/magical pierce stats by 75% for 60 seconds, countless black holes that briefly appears throughout the battle field at random that upon contact drastically reduces your's/entire party's movement/motion speed by 75% for 60 seconds and has immeasurably powerful gravitational pull that upon being pulled past the event horizon into the singularity it deals guaranteed fatal damage to you/entire party, absolute immunity to all forms of ailments, random omnidirectional light green energy waves that each drastically reduces your's/entire party's critical rate/critical damage stats by 75% for 60 seconds.








    Mission lore idea: The Embodiment of The Supreme Void is an Unfathomably Powerful Evil Being of Immeasurable Power, Such an Unfathomable Power is Infinitely Transcendent in comparison to even The Combined Might and Powers of The Gods Themselves and Each of The Gods are Individually Powerful enough to Annihilate All of Creation Composed of Infinite Realities that each Contains Infinite Planes of Existence and Infinite Dimensions along with Space-Time Including the Multiverse that Holds an Infinite amount of Universes, only The True Almighty One could effortlessly defeat The Unfathomably Powerful Evil Being of Immeasurable Power, and only Those of Pure Spirit could call upon The True Almighty One...


    Post "Play Fighting" scene: (The Embodiment of The Supreme Void's Voice) "HAHAHAHA Adventurer did you really think that our "Play Fighting" was really a serious fight? All i did was deliberately restrict the Force of My Attacks to enjoy our "Play Fight" when i could have just Effortlessly Annihilate you along with All of The Gods and All of Creation on a Whim, but if you insist i shall Effortlessly Annihilate you along with All of The Gods and All of Creation!!!*The Embodiment of The Supreme Void prepares to unleash an Immeasurably Powerful Attack that would Effortlessly Annihilate The Adventurer along with All of The Gods and All of Creation*


    The True Almighty One Intervenes and Defeats The Embodiment of The Supreme Void scene: (The True Almighty One's Voice from Above) *The True Almighty One Effortlessly Nullifies the Immeasurably Powerful Attack of The Embodiment of The Supreme Void and then speaks to The Adventurer* "Adventurer although you are strong you are still Infinitely inferior in power compared to your adversary, you have "fought" bravely, but this task is Infinitely far beyond your scope of power and capabilities and can only be accomplished by a Truly Omnipotent Being such as myself, The Embodiment of The Supreme Void could have effortlessly Annihilated you and All of The Gods along with All of Creation simultaneously on a Whim if They wanted to but they decided it would be anticlimatic if They did that so yeah They were merely "play fighting" with you, from now on this is my task to accomplish Adventurer, you just rest now and live to fight another day!" *The True Almighty One performs a Hand Gesture and Effortlessly Erases The Embodiment of The Supreme Void from All Levels of Existence&Nonexistence, and Reverses All of The Damages in Creation caused by The Embodiment of The Supreme Void*

    Note:These Mission Lore Story Cutscenes will always repeat for each and every playfight even after "The Embodiment of The Supreme Void" 's initial defeat by The True Almighty One as a reminder that The Adventurer wasn't the one who defeated it but The True Almighty One

    As for the Boss battle theme, i think Raton's 2nd phase battle theme from iruna online would be fitting










    That is my idea for a super challenging boss, feel free to share your thoughts on it and feel free to share your ideas for a super challenging boss if you have any!
     
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  2. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    I'd rather farm Baavgai. ^_^
     
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  3. Takata

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    That is understandable, fighting against Beings so Powerful that only True Omnipotence could defeat them is not everyone's cup of tea!
     
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    You wanted criticism so here goes:
    The boss isn't challenging or hard it's just unfair and mostly likely impossible to beat aswell. Having ridiculously high Hp and dmg only artificially makes the boss harder and prolongs the fight.
    Having random/unpredictable attacks also makes the boss unfair and frustrating, you basically made it one shot the entire party randomly with the hp 1 and stun. There's not much else to say other than the boss being unfair, frustrating and not very fun to fight.
     
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  5. Takata

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    Alot of those random/unpredictable attacks could be defended against if you used an invincible skill and if you have reaction speeds of literal Infinity, and the whole point of such an Unfathomably Powerful Being as a super boss is to provide an insurmountably difficult and thus fun challenge like no other challenge that pushes every challenger absolutely far above their limits and that is truly worthy of being considered "Nigh Omnipotent and Infinitely Beyond and Transcendent in comparison to All Gods and All of Creation with the Exception of The True Omnipotent One" and "so Infinitely Powerful and Transcendent to such an extent that even the Combined Might and Powers of all The Gods put together is Absolutely Powerless against such an Absolute Power, our only hope to save our multiverse is to rely on The True Almighty One", it may be frustrating for some but can be fun for those who are seeking for a challenge far beyond their own abilities just to gauge where they stand even if they couldn't win at all!
     
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    So you're basically saying it's impossible to beat without being a literal God? If you want a boss to be beatable for a "normal" human without infinite reaction speed, then you have to stay in the realm of plausibility and give the players at least a few hundred milliseconds to react.
     
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  7. Takata

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    If you read carefully, the Adventurer isn't the one to defeat the boss, The True Almighty One is the one that did that and is the only one capable of accomplishing that, the "Defeat" scene of the boss would show that the boss is completely unharmed and unaffected by the "play fight" and is about to unleash an Immeasurably Powerful Attack that would Completely Annihilate not only the Adventurer but also All of The Gods along with All of Creation simultaneously if The True Almighty One didn't intervene and defeat The Boss, also the notion of needing to be a "Literal God" just to stand a chance against the Boss is a massive understatement because the boss named "The Embodiment of The Supreme Void" is Infinitely more Powerful and Transcendent and Beyond The Combined Might and Powers of All The Gods put together to such an extent that The Gods are like "Completely Powerless Insects(The Gods)" in comparison to "The Embodiment of The Supreme Void" Who compared to them is an "Absolutely Infinitely Powerful and Transcendent Almighty Being(The Embodiment of The Supreme Void) looking down upon the Completely Powerless Insects(The Gods)" so being "A Literal God" wouldn't help at all in the slightest, the lore treats the battle as the Adventurer trying their very best to survive and that the Boss is merely "play fighting" with the Adventurer and could have effortlessly Annihilated the Adventurer and All of The Gods along with All of Creation on a single thought if They took the "play fight" seriously, but yeah you would need to be able to react at 0.00000000000000...(all zeroes) seconds to properly iframe The Immeasurably Powerful unpredictable/random attacks in the "play fight", and i will edit the lore again to prevent confusion
     
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    Even if the Almighty One is the one to actually defeat the boss, the player still has to realistically be able to reach the defeat scene of the boss by "inflicting" enough damage to it to trigger the scene, which still seems impossible. An exception for this would be, if the boss is just a "survival test", as in one just needs to survive for a set amount of time/till one dies, but with the undodgeable attacks that seems impossible aswell. What you created isn't a fightable boss, but a lore element and cutscene for a quest(line)
     
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  9. X3NY

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    This could be good idea but I think it will be more fun if it'll be in last boss? like Toram should add a "climb" / "crawl" map where we fight from the weakest to strongest with different attack patterns and behavior. This'll test our PVE skills and challenge ourselves or with party. Lastly, there's an item material that will drop from bosses we can craft for non-tradeable cool weapon & armor appearance or dyes or orb items or skill books And a key to unlock the next map
     
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    How about the boss changes it's immunity based on the attack received. It starts as neutrattack would copy the element it receives damage from. It would only again receive damage from the element it is weak at. If the boss is hit by a non disadvantage element it will release an aoe attack with knockback and could remove the players from the field. These are aside from its normal move set..

    Sorry I am biassed towards magicsworsman
     
  11. Takata

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    Yep that is right!, i also added a note that the cutscene of The True Almighty One effortlessly defeating "The Embodiment of The Supreme Void" will always repeat for each and every playfight to serve as a reminder that the Adventurer isn't the one who defeats "The Embodiment of The Supreme Void" but The True Almighty One!
     
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