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Is selling Refine weapons good spina ?

Discussion in 'Production Class' started by Azliph, Jan 18, 2019.

  1. Azliph

    Azliph Well-Known Member

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    If it does then , does anyone know the price from +E => +S?
     
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    Blast™ Well-Known Member

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    From what guildie tells me. You usually need 3-4(1.5-2m) stacks of anti deg to get +S. Your also looking at about 2 stacks of ori used (3m)
    So you kinda have to be situated spina wise like around 10m+ if you want to start refining for profit otherwise youll screw yourself.
    Its hard to tell whether its good spina or not because it depends on RNGesus. People make money off of it so I guess there is money in refininig
    Also beware, refining rates change every month. For me and many friends this month is exceptionally bad. I spent 1 stack of Ori and couldnt pass +B. Ended at +C
     
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    Azliph Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm
    So refine will not make profit unless u sell it at +S?
     
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    People still try to buy cheap which is annoying when you're selling +S weapons.
     
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    Hmmm ok then I wont sell refine equipmentts xD
    Thx~
     
  6. Blast™

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    the problem no one knows how much money goes into +S. I didnt know until 2 weeks ago aftter i made both my tech and luk smiths
     
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    The answer to this question is the answer to if you sacrifice a goat to RNGesus everyday or not
     
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  8. Azliph

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    Whats RNG?
     
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    Thats why im asking xD
     
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    Random number generator. It's all random, everything depends on your LUK stat irl. If you have 255 LUK IRL, I BELIEVE IN YOUR POTENTIAL. GO BE A BILLIONAIRE WITH YOUR REFINING BUSINESS. if you're like me, you'll end up spending 8m for +B.
     
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    Azliph Well-Known Member

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    Oooh, then im like u xD
     
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    But today I was lucky with +S proto clarity so im happy o3o
     
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    Yeah, it's not good spina for the likes of us at all. We should just stick with plen farming and being broke. :')
     
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    HahaxD hoping for xtal, owo
     
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    last night i got a katana to +S easily, today, not as easy.
     
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    XD, maybe at later date imma attempt a +S lil empress even tho I have +B on me
     
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    +B is hard to sell. And +A and +S sell at significantly different prices
     
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    I already told you on average it’s gonna be 4.5-5m to +S. I’m saying OTHER people don’t know that it takes 5m to +S and try to offer a bad deal
     
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    Yeah I get it, so I decided not to do refine as bussiness o3o
     
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    Getting to +S depends on a lot of factors. Mainly on the weapon itself, and then the standard refining process.

    The truth is you could use up to 10+ Stacks of anti_degens and still struggle to reach +S on a ns weapon. It's very lucky based, and therefore it's basically gambling if you'd expect to obtain profit.

    Sometimes you luck out, and other times with rare variants or unusually high attack, it seems that the failure ceiling is higher before reaching +S.

    My luck with normal / average ns equipment is 1/600. To reach +S.
    My worst experience is with the proto clarity, where I'm stuck at +B/A after 18 stacks of Anti-degens..
     

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