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It just me or no one use garyou?

Discussion in 'Katana' started by Patrona, May 21, 2019.

  1. Patrona

    Patrona Well-Known Member

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    I'm very curious about this. I'm finally unlocked the lvl 4 katana skill. I'm wanna use the garyou skill, But i watch some youtuber like arewzo, doesn't using garyou, only tenryu. Is garyou skill is not good anymore or something?
     
  2. Hestia♪

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    It hits very hard, but requires to use 10 damaging katana skills + armor break to be at its best, so people usually only use it as a boss finisher, or don't have time to use it at all
     
  3. Quit toram

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    1. Tenryu is spammable and can easily reach its highest damage (4 stacks), unlike Garyou (need to use 10 katana skills before, armor break, and Kairiki buff).
    2. Tenryu is unsheathe, Garyou isn't.
    3. If you have Tenryu buff on you can't inflict armor break with Zantei's counter (as it now becomes Zannou instead).
     
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  4. +Aria Kanzaki+

    +Aria Kanzaki+ Well-Known Member

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    I use Garyou now that I have enough skill points from reaching lvl 185 for my katana main, basically you just simply ignore zantei's armor break since it's sometimes's too slow and not convenient to use, especially when you don't have aggro, and just go for kairiki buff and 10 katana skills to buff garyou, and sometimes if your party(or party alliance) has a lot of bow users who's always spamming snipe with armor break you don't really need zantei since they're constantly doing the armor breaking for you.

    I sometimes managed to reach 1m to 1.5m damage using impact>garyou(smite)>ender at venena nightmare around 40% of the time without having to use zantei, the rest of the time it just deals a respectable 300k~700k damage. The 10 katana skills required to reach max damage isn't that much when you think that a katana playstyle basically spams skills at a faster motion speed than most other skill trees. For example, my combo pulse blade>kariki(save)>flashblast(swift)>triple thrust(save)>tenryuu(swift) already gives 3 katana skills charge in around 4 seconds, using magadachi + 6 more tenryuus after that gives max charge for garyou, and if there's a tank you can use those skills in under 15 seconds, it will be even faster if you use gsw to boost motion speed, but let's assume that even without gsw you can use garyou every 20 seconds, assuming a run against a nightmare or ultimate difficulty bosses takes 3 mins, then you would already have used 7-9 garyou within that timeframe, that really boosts the katana's total dps, especially on bosses like maton sword on nightmare and ulti diff with crazy high def from super armor, where you would need to completely rely on garyou's 100% pysical pierce to deal damage. But using garyou benefits expensive 2 slotted users more that can afford to put atk% and srd% xtals alongside odelon xtals than 1 slotted equips katana users that leans toward tenryuu and unsheathe% from odelon xtals, so if you only use 1slotted gears on your katana you would have to sacrifice garyou damage to focus on tenryuu by equipping odelon xtals.

    But overall, even if you only have 1slotted armor and additional I still think it's worth it to get garyou, especially once you reach level 185 cap, as you would have plenty of skill points anyway and can afford to put 10 sp on it.
     
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  5. Akali097

    Akali097 Well-Known Member

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    It's not that it's not good, it's just that setting it up to have max DMG* is too long and is much too troublesome for most players. It's the only other skill in the game with 100% Pierce though, when used with Kairiki. It also doesn't need Crit Rate because Kairiki Ranshin has +100 flat Crit Rate for Garyou only, and Garyou's Crit Rate reduction is negated by Two Handed at Lv. 10…… check it out on this post by our new hero Ainred.
    * On your own. It needs Armor Break, as the others mentioned, which multiplies its measly 100 Skill Constant by a whopping x10, and most rely on Zantei for that. Personally, I just use an ally Bow user's Snipe for the Armor Break for convenience…… if I could. It's a bit tricky, what with the server latency, Armor Break being only affecting the target for 5secs, and having to observe your teammate as well so you know when to cast it…… could be easier if your team's got voice chat……
     
  6. Zufeng

    Zufeng Well-Known Member

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    I want to take garyou,but i don't have enough sp since i used them fro Decoy shot.
    But,Garyou can turn tables when it comes to high def bosses since only Dt and Garyou+kairiki that have 100 pierce.
    The main problem is,this skill takes too long to reach max dmg,not to mention this is also affected by atk stat (Compared to tenryu with unsheathe) which means exp build if you gonna take both Tenryu and Garyou.
    I just thinking about taking snipe skill with kat,but that will negate the two hand passive

    But yeah,im going to take Garyou when i can
     
  7. Arme

    Arme Well-Known Member

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    hmmm try guess xD
    -lets just say..other skill just so so/less dmg/not popular/troublesome and it applied to all class
    -when lfp u will see lfp tenryu/cf/finale/sc/dt/
    -u wont see lfp garyo/arm break/magic burst/storm reaper/chronos
    moral of story is mostly only want dmg..
    (most rare is lfp chariot/rush)
    xD
     
  8. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    As a knux, that hurt my tiny heart...
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Well, if any one can consistently do armor break it would be a bow gun tank with snipe. Keep using the snipe regularly in your combo and the party would have armor break all the time
     
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  10. +Aria Kanzaki+

    +Aria Kanzaki+ Well-Known Member

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    Bowguns have a huge armor break chance penalty, it's better to get bow party members since bow's snipes armor break chance are nearly 100%
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Whew, you're right, it's even lower than shell break
     

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