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KATANA SKILLS INFO DUMP

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by mayam, Dec 21, 2017.

  1. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Yep needs a counter.
     
  2. ChrisZle

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    just for reference. nice info dump :)
     
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    Love it..
     
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    Nice guide as always I'm referring everyone to this
     
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  5. KojiroH

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    May i ask how much crate of meikyo for non katana at lv1, 5, and 10?
     
  6. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Lvl1 22
    Lvl5 30
    Lvl10 40
    It is 20 + 2*lvl
     
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    Thanks
     
  8. Wize Shirotsuka

    Wize Shirotsuka Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to ask~
    The description of Two-Handed passive said that it increases CDMG.

    You wrote it TotalATK+50% on Critical ATK. Does that mean it's +50% on Critical Damage?

    Because from what I see in Coryn.club stat calculator, the Full STR char's CDMG without Two-Handed is 201, and after I added Two-Handed, it became 301. It might be misleading to new players.

    Need clarification because if it's TotalATK+50% then it applies to Total ATK stat (including all buffs and equipment stats), but if it's CDMG+50%, then it only applies to base CDMG, right?

    CMIIW, please answer ASAP.

    Thank you~

    EDIT: the char didn't wear armour or stated weapon, or any equipment. Just plain katana.

    EDIT 2: yes, I have read your clarification before at page 12 or 13 idk. But I still need to ask if it's Total Damage (after all calculations including Unsheathe and CDMG), or Total ATK (including equipment stats and buffs), or maybe (again, sorry, it's to make everything clear u. u) CDMG?

    I want to share the clarification to my guild. Hehe. thank you again~
     
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  9. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Since no one is believing when I keep saying it is TotalATK on CRITICAL HITS.
    Here:-
    IMG20180107094950-2080x1560.jpg
    This is the code for ATK calculation.
    There is iscritical tag in the middle which is the calculation for Two Handed (Known as "Weapon in both hands" in the code.

    It is total ATK boost including +ATK flat and +ATK% boosts like war cry and potions.
    It is NOT +50% TotalDamage on critical hits or TotalCriticalDamage like the one coryn has. I dont blame cruithne it would be difficult to program ATK boost just for critical HITs (would have to add different options) she went with +50% total Critical damage coz it was easier to implment. Also if tested with auto attacks on weak mobs TotalATK+50% and TotalCDMG+50% got no difference at all.
    Dont even consider the description they are there just to fool you.

    The biggest question tho:-
    Whats the difference:-
    As I said before If you consider weak mobs with near to 0def and you are using auto attacks TotalATK+50% and TotalCDMG+50% makes no difference at all.
    Tho there are other flat variables that make difference:-
    1.)Skill Constant
    2.)Enemy DEF
    If the skill constant of the skill you are using is higher than the enemy DEF totalCDMG bonus gets higher output damage than totalATK
    If the skill constant of the skill you are using is lower than the enemy DEF totalATK bonus gets higher output damage than totalCDMG.
    This is very good imo coz if it didnt katana would be doing very low like 1-10k damage with zantei on nm/ulti bosses like ico/york whose def gets very high.
     
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    Oh my, how'd you get the codes? >_< I wanna try and decompile them too. That would really answer ALL of my questions regarding skills. Anyways, i'll try it myself.
     
  11. Wize Shirotsuka

    Wize Shirotsuka Well-Known Member

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    Oooo wow, thanks for the detailed answer :0

    I will also download the pic since my friends aren't believing at all lol. They're Japanese players and since they think that the description is right (the description sounds exactly the same in Japanese), when I pointed out your post at the prior pages, they brushed it off >.>

    Thank you (≧◡≦) ♡
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    I also wanna know lol how they believe the skill guardian's description saying it "increases aggro greatly" when its actually reduce your party's aggro. I would also wanna know why the guard skill advanced guard wont give guard power to shield equipped characters coz descriptions. Will they believe if strike stab got increased multiplier by more STR coz thats not given in description either.
    Even their own wiki dopr.net states it is totalATK of critical hits -_- I will have to waste time recording trying to prove at this rate.

    You will need the software dotpeek the games latest apk. Extract the "managed" assets file from the apk and run the CSharp file in it.
    Dont expect to find all answers tho lol. The code is a spaghetti you are gonna have a really hard time finding what you are looking for unless someone is guiding you.
     
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  13. ChrisZle

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    dont worry. once i have time.. ill tinker with it. thanks @mayam . i kinda like tinkering with those things. hehe
     
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    Gonna try some spaghetti later.. will PM you though about it.
     
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    between goovua n odel, which is better?
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Odel
     
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    it is tested, right?
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Dont wanna sound arrogant but thats just how damage is calculated 100 flat unsheathe cant beat 10% unsheathe. Not everything needs to be "tested" or recorded.
     
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    But crit+14% is weaker than crit+5? What might the base unsheathe stat i wonder? 1000+?
     
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    Flat amount of Crit is better, always. more if u have less crit. However, if you factor some simple math, 14% will be better than flat 5 crit rate the moment you have 36 crit rate. I can post a table of sorts but takes time.
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    The crit rate in this game is calculated specifically that having too much % is useless in some sense.
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    as for unsheath, maybe flat amount gives flat somewhere in the calculation. but the % is factored after all damage is dealt then amplified by the percent. if that doeant make sense.. then i dont know. lol
     

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