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Lvl4 dw skills??

Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by MetaFlux, Oct 9, 2018.

  1. Komibii

    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    Oh wow, there's enough pessimism here to feed an African tribe for a year.

    Like Fox said, the t4 DW skills were announced, so they'll be added. Even if they weren't announced, we could still count on them being released because before the t3 DW skills were released, they didn't have any lock icons either and people thought that no new skills would be added past t2. I'm also sure that the new DW skills will be stronger than the last, but they probably won't be as strong as the other t4 skills because the DW is one of those semi-defensive classes like the brawler.

    I also don't mean to burst anyone's bubble about the warhammer, but a while back I heard Mayam describe the warhammer as being a "red herring"; a clue placed to be intentionally misleading (wether by Mayam to prank people or by the devs I don't know), but the warhammer could just be a ruse. Hopefully I'm wrong because hammers and other blunt weapons are one of the only weapon categories not added to the game yet (unless you count staffs).
     
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  2. t(^_^t)

    t(^_^t) make your mama proud Elite Member

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    I just hope t4 DW will enable us to make true burst damage dw builds.. dot dw takes way too long compared to other classes.
     
  3. Xiavu

    Xiavu Lurking Overlord of LOVE[L.O.L.] Elite Member Epic Member

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    Nuuuu! I weally wanna be a kawaii dps like pelulu!

    Btw, here was the link of the long forgotten issue of the warhammer.
    http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/ideas-for-new-weapons.24155/
    Didnt realized it was so long ago. Still got my fingers crossed tho.
     
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  4. Lucifere

    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    Nothing to say Scye xD hahahaha he was more evil than me xD
     
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    DW is the bulbasaur of toram. I hoe we get a tier 4 skill that deals a burst damage multiplied to the number of times we hit the enemy. Ill be waiting for the DW solarbeam
     
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    Alzarith Elite Member Elite Member

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    Gimme dual skill unsheathe with 5-10 multiplier 400 constant and I am happy
     
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    Lol they don't need much to be good
     
  8. Kanahan

    Kanahan Well-Known Member

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    also kinda irrelevant but is there a possibility of a skill that deals physical damage and cannot crit ? coz buster suddenly popped up in my brain..
     
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    Ainred Well-Known Member

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    Dw lvl 4 skills has been pre planned for a really long time now. From what I found maybe a year ago now, atleast I'm confident on the first one however I think the last 2 are quite a stretch.
    Screenshot_2018-11-08-00-32-23-945~2.png Screenshot_2018-11-08-00-33-27-791~2.png
     
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  10. Lucifere

    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    the effects of those skills? the first look like spining blade improved the others look like buffs
     
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    Ainred Well-Known Member

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    There's still none, it's like the lvl 4 weapon skills release now I suppose (codes added before 3 days I think? Before the release.) Because the whole skill icon included magic swordsman, and lvl 4 skill Icons before even katana is released. About the DW lvl 4 there is no skill id but the lvl 4 of the other skills (battle,guard etc.) are already there. They'll probably add it like before a day or two of the initial release.
     
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    So u mean lv4 dw skills might released late 2018 or early 2019?
     
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    Spiral air is physical and can’t Crit. That’s the main reason it’s a terrible skill
     
  14. Komibii

    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    Spiral air's multiplier is .8/hit (8 total) which compensates for its inability to crit a lot. If it could crit, its multiplier would be something like 4, 3.2, or 2.7; a pretty normal multiplier. It's not really terrible it's just DEX focused, which doesn't really work anyomore because most bosses have insane dodge rates (which I guess means terrible).

    If one of the new DW skills wasn't able to crit, its multiplier would probably be someting like 20, 30, etcetera.
     
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    Spiral air is terrible nowadays.
     
  16. Komibii

    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    Yeah, it's terrible now because it was meant as a DPS skill back in the day, which would have been like having a skill with a multiplier of 5.3. Now it's just meant to help compensate for a DEX users lack of CDMG. Not that it helps much there either.
     
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    noob question here
    how do u calculate example astute dmg (since its the simplest i guess)
    the multiplier and constant and shiz rlly fricked my brain up
     
  18. Komibii

    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    A skills damage = Constant + ATK or MATK (depending on whether it is a physical or magic skill) * multiplier. There are also other things like short/long range damage, critical damage, elements, proration, combo tags, etcetera that contribute to damage.

    Dual wielders have a uniqe ability to where their skills (but only the DW skills) also have sub-weapon ATK applied to them. DWs get sub-weapon ATK from their offhand sword (of course), +1.5 for every point of STR, and +2 for every point of AGI.
     
  19. UIRepth

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    doesnt sub get +1 atk/str n +3atk/agi?
     
  20. Komibii

    Komibii [TITLE] Elite Member

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    Nah, its 1.5 for STR and 2 for AGI. It's basically like getting 2.5 ATK for STR and 3 ATK for AGI in total from your primary and sub weapon as long as you are using DW skills.
     

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