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Mage rant

Discussion in 'Mage' started by taopk23, Mar 22, 2018.

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  1. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    I dnt really use elemental unless i have to, like using spirits tear staff, but the 16mp magic skill has no element and cant be affected by origin element but % dmg to element works, non ele ftw
     
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  2. Ari999

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    Hell, tanks aren't OP but I REEEAALLLLYYYY APPRECIATE WHEN I SEE A FIST USER CUZ FIST ARE USUALLY TANKS AND TANKS ARE LIFE

    Look at other utilities fam, there's far greater uses that make them gods
     
  3. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    WUT U TALKIN 'BOUT I IZ SCRUB! (No seriously, I haven't touched my mage since eons, Katana and DW are just too much fun... Yes I'm an edgy sword fanboi deal with it)

    Also, I'm just going to back off this thread real quick...
     
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    yep :D but i still dont get these guys claiming to be dps though they are not basing the rank and numbers instead their dps looks more how helpful and good they are as a user skill. sorry guys, i agree on this thread unless one of you proves a storm destroys everything. . .im out :)
     
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    Welp you arent still getting the point. That's easy to say for you cos youre one of those who dedicated a lot of their time to this game and probably reached the top percentile of the players. But for us casual players who only can play much, this isnt much rewarding. I might have been over exaggerating on what my original post said saying that mages are too weak (and on this thread i gained some inspiration again to play my mage) and to that i concede but i still think that any other half-assed build of a class is far more rewarding than a mage. This thread is becoming a circlejerk of strong and dedicated players telling "git gud". My only sentiment is that for the majority of the playerbase which are casual players, the game should be at least equally rewarding for all of the classes.

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    Im a casual player and rarely play and even my new mage build can take 1st attacker from other classes, maybe not all the time but thats fine because i dnt go for the attacker rank, if ur in party play it becomes a team game so it shouldnt matter who got attacker etc
     
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    Kind of have to disagree on the last part .-.

    Rank hogs ruin farm efficiency for some of us and sometimes get desperate for ranks they die and then end up effing up the rest of the party

    edit: my mind for some reason jumped over the word "attacker" in attacker rank

    Carry on ._.
     
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    Im also a casual player and rarely play and even my mage build can take 1st attacker from other classes, maybe not all the time but thats fine because i dont go for the attacker rank, i go for support. it doesnt matter what rank u get as long as you get the xtall :p
     
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  10. bloodytolits

    bloodytolits Hiatus. Playing Ragnarok M Elite Member

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    Experienced this twice. The 1st one was great. Everybody was so desperate(I hope and not simply stupid) that they kept on spamming(2 snipers and 1 halberd). My Rampage user is hitting 3k per hit(12k rampage normal XD) and I always take attacker rank. I kept quite because I'm getting attacker LoL.
    The 2nd one is pretty annoying. My support partied with a tank which after taking aggro just kept spamming bless. Tank rank isn't enough for him. And the real support got nothing.


    Déjà vu
     
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    Why is there never an announcement for upcoming rant threads like this? Once more i could not bring any Popcorn and i doubt i have enough space for all the stocks necassary to be prepared all the time
     
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    been playing mage (both sheild/dagger) n still able to out-dps. even those who r 10-15 lvl higher than me. how? protration wise, timing nnnn a few bits of hacks called "let them aggro", let them take those stun" or best "let them die so u cud take all the rank for urself" :V
    jk

    but seriously, i still find tht mages r op :D:D
     
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    It does matter...But just until 1000 times...The 10k emblem are too far too reach...

    Sorry bad eng
     
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    It does matter...But just until 1000 times...The 10k emblem are too far too reach...

    Sorry bad eng
     
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    It does matter...But just until 1000 times...The 10k emblem are too far too reach...

    Sorry bad eng
     
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    220 hrs for 2yrs, are u playing 2 hrs per week? Thats not even casual playing, thats just playing small time. Casual players plays 1-2 hrs per day not per week. Then ur saying mages are weak yet ur not even trying to make ur own mage strong. U said compared to other classes, mages have bad midgame, that just means u dont know how to play mage. U played 220 hrs yet ur gear is still crap, even a "casual" player could have better gears within 220 hrs. Ur rant is pissing me off, "inspired to play mage" my ass, so what if ur inspired, from ur rant it looks like ur not even inspired, it just looks like u tried playing mage and seeing its hard to play u just gave up and rant how weak mages are when u havent even pushed through mages' potential. Current meta does not mean shit, it all comes down to experience and mastery of the class, heck someone who mastered knuckles can whip the ass of katana at comparable gears and lvl.
     
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    There are a lot of physical spammers out there. And mages own them in attacker rank. Haha. Just be smart enough to know when to release your magic. Proration is your friend. Use elementals, and upgrade your staff. I have a mage lvl 105 tissue paper blaster(int dex). Not yet pimpd out but occasionally gets attacker rank. Of course i wont get attacker when other attackers know what they are doing like waiting for me to cast. Lol. And if they are decked out already.

    And dont be jealous of other classes. Try to use those classes and youll see they have weaknesses. Halberd is good but needs status ailment to hit hard, and also a melee so they get hit more than you. Katana hasso also melee. Zantei mp cost. Snipe crit reduction. All classes have their own disadvantages. Deal with the disadvantages, and abuse your advantages and youll be strong.

    Advantage of mage, can use every element coz elemental staffs are easy to craft. Get 1 per element and get the highest atk value for each. Upgrade them. Any upgrade value will help, ideally +E, but any will do. Get elem armor (+% to elem).

    Another advantage is your range. You dont have to dive to deal damage. Abuse that. You see the boss doing a small aoe, cast your spells. Boss cant move, melee hitters will most likely avoid the aoe while you get a free hit.

    Edit: btw, the build i run is int dex coz thats me abusing my strength which is range. I can deal damage while not gettin hit so i have the privelege to make a full on damage stat character. Aggro control by using sneak attack from shot skill too ;)
     
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  19. taopk23

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    It's not that i played for the whole 2 years. I quitted for a year and just picked up this game a month or two ago. I have 20m spina in my arsenal and im still contemplating wether to spend it on my 110 katana or to pump my 140 mage to 150(for the lvl 4 skills) and get some 2s items.

    I dont think ive been lacking with what ive been doing in terms of effeciency. I spend most of my time in the CB and managed to save some spina by buying, selling, hoarding etc. while the rest of my time farming combo level and leveling

    if youre actually.pissed off at least contribute to the discussion and give some constructive criticisms which i think ive done my part . At least those guys who pointed me out managed to give some good points and convinced me to some parts otherwise.
    :)
     
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    Alright then. Its mostly pointed out but mage doesnt bother with proration, since its solely the class that uses magic. Second, as I said, it all comes down witg class expertise. It doesnt matter if ur 140 or 150, if you still dont have class expertise, it is all for naught. It may not be easy to level up since every level requires some time farming, altho you said you are gonna pump your mage to 150, I'll assume you are gonna buy Parasitzed Crystal from CB or shout. This kind of action is really unreliable unless you just want lvl 4 skills. Why? Because this action lowers your expertise in using a mage. Third, you are hesitating on to which class to pour your saved spina, either Katana or Mage. Altho this contradicts my second argument since I am against burst leveling, the fact that you hesitated still remain. Why hesitate? Can't you pour all you resources into strengthening your mage to the point that you could somehow match up to the so called endgame players? Fourth, if I were you, I would use that 20 mil to buy gears, not "pump up my mage". Why? Lets say you did pump up your mage, now what? In the end your 20 mil will all be finished to buying Parasitized Crystal. It may not be finished but still, you won't have enough money to get high tiered gears. In conclusion, please do not rant on how mage is useless when you yourself has many mistakes here.
     
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