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Magic Device

Discussion in 'Mage' started by Nekotori, Sep 11, 2021 at 4:45 PM.

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Is Main MD Bad?

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  2. No

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  1. Nekotori

    Nekotori Well-Known Member

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    Right now, I was thinking: What is the strength of having a Magic Device as a main weapon?
    On the Magic skill tree, It has Bigger Aoes & longer Dots. It can also use Dancer & Minstrel skills at the same time. The problem though, any weapon that can equip Md as Sub has the same bonus. Granted, most weapons has lower matk gain from Int. Knuckles however has the same Matk. And with the Magic Warrior skill tree & Annilator, it outdamages magic devices.

    So I feel like Magic device on its own doesn't have any identity or skills unique to it. Nothing no other build can do better. So IMO, I think magic device either needs something similar to crusher skills with a skill tree dedicated to it. Or they could rework it to be viable.
     
  2. The Brahmnic Boy

    The Brahmnic Boy Well-Known Member

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    Knux MD is basically MD without Guardian beam, but better.
     
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    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    Md can use two hand passive, ninja scroll, decoy range, status ailment, speed and alas you're a fairy. ^_^
     
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  4. Nekotori

    Nekotori Well-Known Member

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    Well, I haven't really tried ninja skills on MD yet, so I don't know how good that is. Though I mostly meant like skills unique to it. Some skills in a weapon skill tree can only be used by the same weapon. For example, Crossfire can only be used by Bow/BG, Halberd can only use DT, etc.

    Until Crusher skills, I think knuckles were in the same boat since other weapons could use its skills. Though it's more versatile in sub weapons. Though since you mentioned fairy, I just now thought about it. Maybe it's meant to be a magic support class. Damage AND support only though, since I feel like it's overshadowed in pure support.
     
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    Red_Fox Master of the Ninja Kittens Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    Wizard Skills use 75% matk and 25% atk.
    even though MD has only half as much weapon atk as Staff, it's stat growth from INT raises atk more than Staff, giving it a slight advantage in Wizard Skills.
    the higher base aspd is also more beneficial to Familia's additional magic effect.

    their unique thing used to be the attack growth from AGI, but without any decent physical skills to use it, this didn't become a noticeable advantage.
    this changed with the introduction of ninja scrolls.

    half the skills are physical,
    so random activation through Ninjustsu can trigger weak attacks for Staff, unless atk is raised by STR.
    MD can use all skills equally well.
    the increased attack range also grants a slightly wider attack radius to Wind Release.

    and with the last update, ninja scrolls give the same bonus effect to Assassin Skills as daggers.
    now MD finally can use some good physical attacks.
    Staff could do the same, but has to trade off speed for power.
     
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