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Marionette hearts vs Shell masks

Discussion in 'Toram Online Quest Discussions' started by Hermit.Legend, Mar 13, 2016.

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Shell masks vs MMH

  1. Shell masks

    26.7%
  2. Magic Marionette hearts

    73.3%
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  1. Hermit.Legend

    Hermit.Legend Active Member

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    Server no. in nisel mountain: mountainside decreased frm 9 to 5. New quests have really gotten into many players. Though there are still some players like me that think shell masks are still better choices.
    Heres why I think they are better:

    Shell masks:
    Farming:
    Bitter nuts: uncommon drop
    Nisel woods: common drops
    Total experience: 28k/quest (both)
    Time taken for 30 slots of both:
    1-2 hours
    1 stack of b nuts gives 2.5 quests
    1 stack of nisel gives 3.3 quests

    Lets say out of 30, u got 12 stacks of b nuts and 18 stacks of n woods
    No. of quests from b nuts = 2.5 x 12 = 30 quests
    Exp = 18k (its more than 18k) x 30 = 540k+

    Quests frm n woods = 3.3 x 18 = 59.4 quest (round down to 54)
    Exp frm n woods = 10k x 59 = 590k+
    Total exp = 1.13m+!!!!
    If u have more slots then more exp!!!!

    (30 slots is a referrence)
    Summary:
    30 slot farm with 12 b nuts and 18 n wood stks take 1-2 hours giving 1.13m+ exp.

    Buying:
    1 stk of b nuts (ideal)= 3.5k/29pcs
    If u buy all 30 stacks= 105k
    Thats 30 x 2.5 x 18k = 1.35m+ exp
    (Dont be lazy and complete stacks frm sm)

    1 stk of n woods (ideal)= 1.5k/stk
    If you buy 30 stacks= 45k
    Thats 30 x 3.3 = 99, 99 x 10k = 990k+ exp
    Summary:
    30 stks b nuts cost 105k giving exp more than 1.35m
    30 stks n woods cost 45k giving exp more than 990k.


    Selling:
    When selling 30 stks b nuts (farmed in 2.5-3 hours maximum) for 3.5k/29 pcs,
    Total earned = 3.5k x 30 = 105k
    (N woods are less in demand so ill leave them)
    + u get 25s per quest (ceramic bow) if u sell or nice amount of wood pts
    Summary:
    U get 105k for 30 stk b nuts when u sell at 3.5k/29pcs. Farming them takes 2-3 hours

    Marionettes:
    Farming:
    Marionette heart: very rare drop
    Quests in a stack = 2.475
    Exp per quest = 86k
    Amount gained in 1-2 hours (comparing sm)= 2-3 stks(?)
    (If 3 stks) No. of quests= 3 x 2.475= 7.425 (round down to 7)
    Exp= 7 x 86k = 602k
    Time for 30 stks= abt 20 h
    Ofcourse it gives higher exp than combined shell mask drops,
    30 x 2.475 x 86k = 6.385m+
    Taking 1.5h for shell mask round, in 20h, 13 rounds can be done and exp frm 13 rounds = 1.03m x 13 = 13.39m
    Summary:
    In 2 hours u can get abt 600k exp
    30 stks, 20 hours, give abt 13.39 million


    Buying:
    Ideal price for stk= 30k
    30 stks = 30 x 30k = 900k
    Exp = 30 x 2.475 x 86k = 6.385m+
    Summary:
    30 stks cost 900k with total exp of 6m+

    Selling:
    900k for 30 stks but takes around 20h
    Rev III useful but just 1 makes a burden on slots unless you have stacks.
    Summary:
    30 stks sell for 900k but take 20 hours for 30 stks.

    Comparing with shell masks, its
    10 x 105k = 1.05m with continuing of b nuts only farm.
    Summary:
    B nut only farm gives 10 rounds in 20 hours giving 1.05m as total
    18 stk n woods sell for 27k
    12 stks b nuts sell for 42k, total = 69k
    13 rounds give 69 x 13 = 906k spinas



    Conclusions:
    In my opinion, shell mask gives more exp and spinas over time based on my calculations and results. Shell masks more profitable in all fields except if you are rich.
    Buy marionettes if you are really rich (having 20m+) and really need quick lvling. 900k is ok price for 6.385m exp.

    Please comment any question you have or anything I missed out or anything different in your opinions or anything I might have mislooked giving marionettes upper edge.
    Also if I am wrong on prices and time taken for stacks plz reply so that I can make changes. Also if this post is unclear and not neat, then I request someone to repost it more neatly. My first report and useful post on something related to toram.
    U can also suggest ur ideas over it. If I am unaware of any other reason for marionettes, plz state so.
    Thank you!

    PS: plz ignore any grammatical mistakes or spellings.

    ~MrHermit
     
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  2. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Was the mmh farmed outside of the palace? Because its much faster inside and the sword marionettes drop them too
     
  3. kariin

    kariin Patience is a Virtue Staff Member MODERATOR Super Likable Elite Member Wiki Contributor Epic Member

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    when i'm in a really good storm party, i got 15 stks in 2 hours. :)
     
  4. Hermit.Legend

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    Outside of palce r mages. They drop metal wings for mana
    It is slower than the ones inside (sword)
     
  5. Hermit.Legend

    Hermit.Legend Active Member

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    Well now they banned auto clicker
    And it seems hard to believe since I get 15-20 b nuts stks in a full storm pt in 2 hours........
     
  6. Hermit.Legend

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    Also if you are bored of farming b nuts all the time and need a change in scenery then its your choice :)

    I didnt mention other new quests:
    Mint gummies are rarer drops and terrain for its farm area is rough ----> rough for stormers
    Other new quests take longer to farm and require mats frm different maps so I ignored them too.
     
  7. Groot

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    Id say mmh more profitable for the mana mats
     
  8. Odin

    Odin O.o hello? Anyone there? Elite Member

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    Agreed. Also mage mario good if you still need mana points too.
     
  9. Aqua

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    “Server no. in nisel mountain: mountainside decreased frm 9 to 5. New quests have really gotten into many players.”

    I don’t think it is a matter of new quests gotten into many players, it’s more like the change of anti-bot game engine has blocked a lot of botters lol.
     
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  10. Shisa

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    You say that it'll take 1-2 hours to get 30 stks of b nuts and n wood but it takes me 2 hours to get close to 10...
     
  11. AmatusAnathema

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    Selling mmh 120stks ^^
    And well mmh is good for business
     
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  12. Odin

    Odin O.o hello? Anyone there? Elite Member

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    Ive done it in 2h b4
     
  13. Kayene

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    if you have a good party and need exp to lvl too by the means of farming still MMH is best. , but if your going just for farming its the player choice of ground i think.
     
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  14. Hermit.Legend

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    Thats may be because of inactive pt or not full storm.

    And yes I said 30 stks of:
    b nuts + n woods
    B nuts only may take 3 hours
     
  15. Hermit.Legend

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    Well if u wanna farm mana mats mmh better. If u wanna sell them..... well mmh wont be bought for mana mats
    Every1 knows that its better to buy wand spirits. Its cheaper and easily sold.
     
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  16. Hermit.Legend

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    Ya id prefer mage marion too if u want exp + mana mat
    However if ur aim is quick lvl cap..... well u know that :)
     
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  17. Hermit.Legend

    Hermit.Legend Active Member

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    Lol ya that might be one of the reason.
    Another reason I found was........ well.... Laziness. Ppl hate the time consumed for turning in nuts and woods which I think is a stupid reason

    "No pain No gain" :)
     
  18. Hermit.Legend

    Hermit.Legend Active Member

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    Well yea if you look it that way
    But the customers of mmh are way fewer than b nuts and n woods. It might take 24 hours or even more to sell em all till when you could have sold 240 stks of nuts
    Thats 3.5k x 240 = 840k
    And thats not bad..... though its comparatively v low
     
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  19. Hermit.Legend

    Hermit.Legend Active Member

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    Well yea you have a point but many ppl lvl cap their farmers and high damagers 1st. Farm mages have difficulties in killing them in 1 md shot. So their 1st step would be lvling them to cap which would make exp frm monsters pointless
     
  20. AmatusAnathema

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    I am an experienced seller of it and I would say 300stks sells in 2hours
    And you can ask people about it.
     
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