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Discussion in 'Dual Wield' started by Mozza, Mar 19, 2017.

  1. Mozza

    Mozza Member

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    I have account lv 105 the stat is full dex and 22 agi.My class is Dual wield, but i use reset skill because my dw learn wrong skill.
    So i need advices its better i continue be dw or something else and i have reset stat too. Spear is look cool too or 2H or 1H? What advantage or disadvantaged? Please help
     
  2. SirEgg

    SirEgg cancerous breakfast Elite Member

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    2h, 1h-fu , staff-fu , halberd , snipers , and mages are all in top dps tier and each one of 'em has its own pros and cons.
    Depending on how you view dps , but most of the time ,dps are segregated into 2 which is long-term dps and burst dps.
    Burst dps (in no particular order) :
    Sniper
    Halberd
    Sword fu
    2H
    Long term dps :
    Mages
    Staff-fu
    Dual Sword
     
  3. Mozza

    Mozza Member

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    I already be dw after look cypherian guide, but he didnt mention comboob, i need dw combo please
     
  4. I robot

    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    DW combos are changed based on the situation. you really should watch and understand @Cypherian's builds if you want to get the most out of your dual wield. @Szchev` has a slightly different variant, it works well too.
    Also, dual wield is not a class that can be mastered overnight(frankly, none of them are), don't expect to get everything right on the first try. I myself reset four times before I got a build that shows promise
     
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  5. Mozza

    Mozza Member

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    I still not know the combo._.
     
  6. I robot

    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    just try out your own combos and see what works for you
     
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    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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  8. Eliahzrel

    Eliahzrel Well-Known Member

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    I agree with this.. I almost give up on my DW.. I reset all for 3. Times before i end up with a decent DW.. PHANTOM SLASH was my frustration.. I end up making my PS 10. And my Shadow step 10. It really do better now.. Really helps chasing boss and what i love the most is the null of the heavy damage giving by boss when PS is activated. Save me from having remodel armor and evasion items.
    Playing DW really needs timing and need to learn Boss atk and movement pattern. You might end up ending your skill with a Bang.
     
  9. I robot

    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    note my choice of words- I did say it showed promise, I didn't say it was good. a good build will likely need more resets. anyways, about their builds, cyph is more defensive and Szchev more offensive
     
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    @Szchev @Cypherian or anyone i need some more info on DW skill please?:confused:
    the reflex and flash blast hav any diff between the lvl?
    Reflex lvl 5 compare with lvl 10, does it inc more evasion rate or not?
    Flash blast lvl 1 compare with lvl 5/10 , does the dmg inc or not at all?
    what worse is the evasion seem a bit bug or something...
    (both hav used tomato juice for eva inc +30) my swrd fu can do more eva than dual wielder with reflex sometimeso_O
    Thanks in advance
     
  11. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    Reflex = increased evasion rate per level
    Flashblast = increased activation damage per level
    Best way to utilize both is to get light armor, max light armor masteries, eva pots and reflex + 1 eva equip.


    Reason why i dont say any specific combo is becaus I dont use Save, and Impact. So if you're ok with having 700mp and using a 500mp nuke combo. I'll tell you. If not, it's your choice of combos that determine the effectivity of your build.
     
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  12. RikuoWSC

    RikuoWSC Well-Known Member

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    ah sure it can help me a lot btw my mp is 600mp and depend on weapon it 750mp
    my armor is the latest one assassin garb npc craft too only add and ring dont hav eva stat
     
  13. メScye

    メScye Well-Known Member

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    First, seek your playstyle, then learn and improve from your core playstyle. (Full DPS, balanced (This is my playstyle), defensive/utility, offensive/utility, or even tank)

    Second, if you chose not to tank, choose your main source of DPS.
    (Charging slash, Twin slash, Spinning slash, phantom slash, Tempest etc.)

    Third, play around your core playstyle and your main DPS.

    Fourth, accept that DW needs to built hybrid when in comes to choosing your stat allocation.

    Fifth, Optimize your skill build to the point where even 1 SP should be in the right place.

    Sixth, Learn and understand your own playstyles movements and master your own mechanics and how you maneuver your own character.

    Seventh, farm spina to buy your preferred equipments that can massively boost/support your own core playstyle.

    And lastly, create your own set of combos and master it together with your core playstyle.
     
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  14. Cypherian

    Cypherian Dual Doggo! Bork bork! Super Likable Elite Member

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    This. Should. Refer. To. Both. Stats. And. Skills.

    The feeeeeels.
     
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    メScye Well-Known Member

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    Yep, sorry I forgot. Yes do it even in stat allocation.
     
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    メScye Well-Known Member

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    It's something like these ..
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    Where do I put these badboys. In stats, I can just do it in dex. But I just don't wanna do it lol (maybe because I'm too afraid if I somehow fail to crit using twin slash, that is why)

    However, I feel like my remaining skill point should be in the right place as much as possible. (Quick aura? Flash stab? I dunno yet.)
     
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  17. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Hot tomato juice adds dodge not evasion.
    For evasion go for black mist candy.
    Reflex evasion rate doesnt change with lvl from what i have experienced.
    Flash blast always activates if evasion occurs.
    Flash blast higher lvl = higher dmg yep.
    Whenever evasion activates while you are stuck in the animation of skills you wont see the blue "evasion" appear instead you will only experience not taking any dmg and no "miss" appears either.
     
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    do you have a normal weapon as a base? i just wanna to know if your dw is below 600 or 500 atk and less than 1000atk speed.
     
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    Ok thanks for the advice Im sure to keep it in mind
     
  20. RikuoWSC

    RikuoWSC Well-Known Member

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    Really??o_O I thought hot tomato juice give 30+ Evasion on it description tho?
     

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