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Discussion in 'Katana' started by FTatsuya, Jan 20, 2019.

  1. FTatsuya

    FTatsuya Well-Known Member

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    Well its been a while.
    Hi everyone!


    I did a lot of mistakes. And I need to rethink my skill allocation and equipment from now on.
    And I need help



    Anyway I came here to share my current build.... I went from mid tier stats to useless high stats... And missing key skills

    255 dex. 75 str. Around 20 vit and around 40 on crit.
    1900 atk at lv 144.
    Close to 0 atk speed (heavy armor)
    Cast speed around 750 I thtnk? The normal ammount of a full dex build.
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    All skills on katana are at 5 and 10 on the key ones such as:

    Zantei. (If I go solely on tenryu this should be at one I believe since armor break at 100% is meh without Garyou. Also I would be using Zannou instead. And keep it at shortcut for a quick parry to a sure kill attack)
    Garyou (ROFL. Probably will be at 0 next month idk)
    Tenryu.
    Bushido.
    Two-handed.
    Karakiri
    Sukuchi (Wich I'll leave it at one most likely since I find out it doesnt affect proration, yup I'm an idiot. Also I use decoy shot a lot lately so it started to become useless unless I get knock out and I have to start from 0mp.

    I left Madagachi and Hasso at 5. Cuz I thought it would be better that way... But I'm starting to think Madagachi should be at 10.

    Shot skills: all passives at 5 (including Quick Draw) and Decoy Shot at 10.


    All the way to Impact 7 and 1 point on Finale for finisher to combos.
    Without garyou it will be removed most likely. No point in impact and all the combos of tenryu are short, low mana cost and fast. Wich are buffs and tenryu.
    0 points on mp recharge (with all the ampr and mp Regen from Shukuchi and Decoy Shot I find it pointless now. Maybe I'll put one point but can't guarantee it)

    Survivality:
    Just the HP boost at 10.
    With my current equipment I am close to the 2000 mp anyways.
    Battle Support: it's incomplete but I'll leave whack at 5 if I fall short on skill points at lv 175
    Atk up 5
    Whack 5
    Crit up 3

    NOTHING I regret this decision cuz Flash Blast and God Speed are unreacheable at this point

    nothing either! i completely forgot about recovery now I drink ebs and revitas like coke everytime I use Karakiri. Not big deal tho if I keep the same build just 6 skill points and I'm ready to go



    I need help with xtals here .My equips are.
    Lil empress katana @98+S (Gwaimol+Tyrant Machina) atk7cr17cd7cd17
    I like this set up but if u recommend change either of the xtals for an odelon (if I go full tenryu next month) I'll start farming odelons as soon I reach 175.

    Holy Robe (Heavy) def 92+B (Usami+Ornlarf) cd7cd17cr17cr17 this will be untouched. Can't afford to lose Usami right now. I got comfortable with it's stats
    Ornlarf is a must so yeah.

    Tyrant Mask 6%(Guignol), Wich I use in my 2h but with it I can reach 1900 atk right now. Thinking in getting a 2 slot in the future with guignol and baphomela. But the price equals a 2s armor.. perhaps even more.

    Shaved ice hat(Zoe). Wich I'm about to sell it and get one with gespenst II as soon I find one cheap. I need the accuracy and crit rate against bosses that have crit resist and high evasion.

    Beast fang talisman (Venena+Felien)
    Stupid mistake here. Got charmed by the accuracy and little mp boost that I bought Felien and I bought it when the price was high...
    Should have bought a Guignol to put it on the second slot when I was aiming for pure raw atk also can fit well on my Dual Wielder and THS... But idk about lowering my atk speed even further. I can afford to go -100 with my THS cuz I use Rampage+Berserk to ampr. And my Dual Wielder is Agi>Str. So a giga speed is enough to bring me back to the 1000


    Ahhh so much information... I saw a lot of builds from low budget. Mid budget and high budget. And I made a huge mess


    I know to maximize dps I should get a few element katanas but I'll stick to non-elemental katana full crit. To avoid a huge mess on the bag and without going crazy about Spina over and over. Also when Crystal Lamina becomes craftable. I want to upgrade just one katana. Not 3 or 4
    .


    I'll edit later if I forgot anything
     
  2. Prisma-C

    Prisma-C Well-Known Member

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    Magadachi can be left at 1.

    With the Tenryu buff (Zannou), it'll always deal full dmg.

    However, you can also get Maga 10 for Zantei 1.

    This will give you more options in terms of creating combos. Maga is also pretty useless on boss fights where you have to constantly take attacks.

    Having both Garyou and Tenryu is fine, but I suggest focusing on a single attack to make it easier for you.

    Xtal wise, go for unsheathe instead of attack. Ultimate Machina is also a good weapon xtal for Katana. (It would've been great if your arm was light instead of heavy - fit to use for a wider range of builds, but otherwise, it's perfect)


    There really isn't much I can tell you. The build isn't bad, just a few mistakes here and there. You may want to focus on Unsheathe attack instead of Attack instead though.
     
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  3. FTatsuya

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    Ty for the reply . I'll keep it in mind. I'll see the final product and decide if get a reset or an oblivion or maybe both.

    What about going full dex and rest Str>vit and crit? I like using tmask with Guignol but it cripples my crit rate even at 40 crit stat
     
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    I suggest having at least 20 - 40 crit and keeping vit at 20 or even just 10.

    Your current stats aren't bad either.
     
  5. +Aria Kanzaki+

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    Regarding the katana skills, it depends on your katana play style, if you always prefer to fight alongside a party with a tank present and just spam tenryuu after tenryuu at the boss then leaving magadachi at 5 and zantei at 1 should be okay, but if you also solo bosses often or like to solo bosses(like me), having magadachi at lvl 10 is a must, it blocks 90% fractional and 90% physical damage, as well as 45% magical damage, and gives back 200 mp when an attack is successfully blocked, costing only 1 mp bar to use, which makes it the katana's version of Perfect defense.

    I also have zantei and garyou both at lvl 10 on my katana build, having these 3 skills at lvl 10 makes their benefits shine when it comes to fighting very high def bosses, like guignol at megiston 3 for example, my playstyle when soloing him is to 1st cast decoy(which guarantees near infinite mp), use magadachi to keep blocking his red aoe attacks that he quickly spams like crazy(at lvl 10 magadachi turns his damage to me from 3k to 300, and only costing 1mp bar) while at the same time building up the 10 skills necessary to maximize garyou's damage, and when I reached 9 skills I activate kairiki and use zantei lvl 10 to guarantee armor break for the 10th skill, and then just unleashe garyou, which deals anywhere from 500k to 1m damage.

    So in the end it all depends on your play style, or whichever skills you use most often, most ktn players you find who loves soloing bosses(like hivan for example) usually have magadachi, zantei, and garyou at lvl 10, while those who only fights alongside a party or against bosses with very simple and predictable pattern leave maga at 5, zantei at 1, and dont use garyou at all
     
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  6. FTatsuya

    FTatsuya Well-Known Member

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    Wow ty! I usually play on party because I find it more fun and more efficient. But since not always there's a tank I usually share the aggro with another dps melee. Sometimes im with mages and archers making me the meat shield, but tenryu doesn't produce much aggro I usually chase the boss around hitting it like a madman trying to take the aggro. on normal low lv nightmare or ult.


    When a tank is mandatory I usually get kicked. Since they preffer a higher dps class over a kataba. That or I'm being kicked for being a noob. Wich it's possible


    I'll stay garyou tenryu I used coryn skill simulator and I have the next stats if I keep the whole set as it is right now at lv 170
    Stat at lv 170 using my tmask
    Str 113
    Vit 40
    Dex 255
    Crit 40
    Offensive (Physical)
    ATK 2001
    ATK (when critical) 3002
    Sub-weapon ATK 0
    ASPD 39
    Physical Pierce 0 %
    HIT 546
    Critical Rate 98 %
    Critical Damage 214 %
    Unsheathe Attack 103 %
    Unsheathe Attack 0
    Additional Melee 0 %
    Offensive (Magic)
    MATK 462
    Magic Pierce -3 %
    CSPD 775
    Additional Magic 0 %
    Offensive (General)
    Short Range Damage 100 %
    Long Range Damage 100 %
    Stability 93 %
    Anticipate 0 %
    Guard Break 0 %
    Defensive
    MaxHP 8454
    MaxMP 1870
    AMPR 29
    DEF 415
    MDEF 411
    FLEE 70
    Guard Rate 10 %
    Guard Power 25 %
    Evasion Rate -10 %
    Physical Resistance 5 %
    Magic Resistance 0 %
    Refine Reduction 13 %
    Ailment Resistance 0 %
    Aggro 100 %
    Barrier Cooldown 100 %
    Physical Barrier 600
    Magic Barrier 0
    Fractional Barrier 0 %
    Reflect 0 %
    Element
    Weapon element : Neutral


    Power Resistance
    Neutral 100 % -10 %
    Fire 100 % 0 %
    Water 100 % 0 %
    Wind 100 % 0 %
    Earth 100 % 0 %
    Light 100 % 0 %
    Dark 100 % 0 %


    Other Effect
    Flinch Unavailable No
    Tumble Unavailable No
    Stun Unavailable No

    Idk what will happen if I reset skills tho but I find it pretty decent
     
  7. FTatsuya

    FTatsuya Well-Known Member

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    Well I got tired of my low dmg so I decided to remake my katana with full unsheath. Just bought a top hat with baphomela for 2m lol.
    Now I'm selling my Felien that it's worth almost the same but idk what to get in my second slot on my beast fang talisman. I was thinking on getting an odelon or govua?
     
  8. mayam

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    Dunno what you mean by this because auto after shukuchi does count as normal proration. Shukuchi is worth lvl10 for katana for bosses where you can not spam decoy at least.

    Garyou still has niche uses but since you are saying you are low on sp I say get rid of it as well as magic skills. Magic skills especially even if you take garyou for the very rare high def + high crit resist bosses you are not gonna use garyou as often that you need impact on it.
    If you mostly use tenryu then absolutely no reason to make zantei 10, keep it at 1 with maga 5

    Odelon all the way. Goovua is really not that good unless you are fighting very high def and in that case katana is kinda bad in general.
    Lastly I recommend getting modestia during the next whatever p.ava event.
     
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    Will do. I bought an odelon as you said. I'll keep using shukuchi at 10 then.
     
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    FTatsuya Well-Known Member

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    Update:

    Equipment
    Ktn 98+S a7cr17cr17cd17 tyrant+Gwaimol
    Arm92+b heavy s7cr17cr17cd17 Usami+Ornlarf
    Tophat9+d baphomela
    Beast fang talisman Venena+odelon

    Stats
    Dex>Str or Str>dex for unsheath?

    Skills
    Dropping the magic skills and will focus on tenryu unsheath as main source of dps and garyou as alternative dmg source against high def bosses
    Adding God speed and flashblast to the skills

    Doubts.
    I remember seeing ppl using like 3 odelons and baphomela. But am I ok with just 1 and one baphomela? I have Usami Wich gives like 3% unsheath... So is it good enough?
     
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