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Need help on Snipe + Storm build

Discussion in 'Hybrid' started by TokiXKiru, Jul 3, 2017.

  1. Djikstra

    Djikstra Well-Known Member

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    Yes, I agree. Storm sniper can benefit from fast casting time and high damage for snipe from DEX.
     
  2. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    There's more than just that...
    Hint: the question I asked you on shoutbox
     
  3. Ezenio

    Ezenio Well-Known Member

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    But its better to focus a skill tree as main dps skills coz u'll confuse bout the stat, weapon, and skill bonus effect while using certain weap
    Storm and snipe, if ure using bg then storm gonna be real weak and snipe will be the same(+ longer cast because using storm b4 snipe, cast and cast (die faster), and long mp charge)
     
  4. Djikstra

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    I don't know anything about the new hunter skills.
     
  5. Djikstra

    Djikstra Well-Known Member

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    It is much suitable for end-game build. U will have tons of stat points to pump INT stat.
     
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    Well lets just see for the lvl 4 skill trees, storm will not be that good i guess
    But for now its kinda useless (only use for proration) to use storm for dps when using bg
    While staff can get the benefit with fast mp charge way better damage of storm and int base stat
     
  7. TheXIIIthGuy

    TheXIIIthGuy Bye bye Elite Member

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    Well, this conundrum is applicable to Arrow Mage if he wants to use Snipe as well (Snipe will slow down your combo so your Storm will be delayed as well... let alone the delay for Storm itself).
    Also, I never said that he should try and spread out his stats (I have the opposite idea in fact). I just said that a Magic Archer has a niche that an Arrow Mage cannot access, which I will detail with the next reply.
    There's a new skill in the Hunter tree (can't remember the name) that comes after Sunstrike Arrow. What it does is enhance AMPR for Bows and BGs, increase their weapon ATK and make their autos stronger by adding their MATK stat to the damage. My question was if the skill is able to be put in a combo.
     
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    Magic arrow
     
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  9. Djikstra

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    Thing I hate about storm if the boss moves out from it xD
     
  10. Ezenio

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    I agree
    Well yeah magic archer has potential, if the combo..
    Moeba > smoke dust (save) > lance (swift) > impact (cons) > snipe (smite)
    130% snipe double magic proration
     
  11. TheXIIIthGuy

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    True, but it kinda defeats the purpose of using MATK since Lance will be heavily debuffed (and thus, Magic Arrow is useless).
    Also, I'm working with OP's constraint of having both Snipe and Storm in a combo. While it's not optimal, it's what he/she requested...
     
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    It could be both of em in a combo (as dps) or both in a combo but one of em os the main dps
     
  13. SirEgg

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    The potential is great but honestly it is being pulled down by the many demerits in making this build.
    1. Bow/bg has poor matk per point of stat growth making your overall matk low. Better to use staff + arrow. 3atk/1 matk per point of str , 4 matk/1atk per point of int, but this would leave you to another stat to worry about which is cspd.
    2. Without staff , The storm's base skill multiplier would be weaker.
    3. Using md as off-hand would decrease your atk by -15%
    4.Balancing the scales between crit gears , matk%, atk% & cspd% (if youre using staff + arrow) equipments would obviously leave you to half-assed stats. Having low crit would get your attacks miss all the time , meanwhile on top of your low matk if you focus on either crit or atk% , it would make your storm dmg really weak.
    5. SP constraints to get other necessary passive skills.
     
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    Thread maker, what do u want? Me and @TheXIIIthGuy guy could fulfill ur request
     
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    I had these types of builds in mind sometime ago, and of course i had to weigh the pros and cons of the build.
     
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    Yes sir! *hyped*
     
  18. Djikstra

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    I prefer bow and arrow. I will focus on the snipe, not on the storm, so I will choose this stat. DEX% CR CD% ATK%. Storm with 255 DEX is already near instant cast. No more need for cspd% lol. I have tried it myself. INT doesnt give 1 atk. DEX gives 1 matk. The same goes for mage. There is no skill multiple too for snipe on mage.
    EDIT: INT increases 3 MAtk for bow and bowgun. INT strangely increases 1 Atk for staff.
     
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    I wonder if you comprehended properly what i've replied.
    Thats what i meant by bow/bg having poor stat growth as compare to using staff + arrow(staff has 3atk/1matk per point of str and 4matk/1atk per point of int) , and base on the idea you've shown , you'd barely have any matk at all. You might as well be using storm for its aesthetic purposes.
     
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    INT gives 3 Matk for bow and bowgun. Dex gives 1 matk. Dex gives 4 atk for bowgun and 3 atk for bow. Str gives 1atk for bow.
     

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