new dw type maybe?(busted)

This is what I was getting at^

 

*Facepalm* lol

 

"Evade and dodge are one in the same... both attained thru using agi...both from flee..."
this is what you said earlier.

you said evade comes from agi.
which i pointed out, as it doesnt

 

I'm high dude lol either way I still notice a difference with higher flee for evasion not using light arm. But Idk, maybe it's just me lol.

 

It's what I said yep and I'll stick to that opinion because thru my experiments w/o use of light arm I get high flee but I'm not taking into account skills and other various stats from gear. =/ like I said man I'm stoned atm haha.

 

i dont think you can eva if your wearing a heavy arm,it also decreases your evasion rate like 100%? even if your using reflex you might have more a little of chance or no eva at all. plus your motion might in trouble unless you have many xtal for your build,just saying^^

heavy armor needs shield to be said good with parry at the same, youll guard more than with light relying eva ^^

eithier ways sounds interesting hope you can wield it good

 

Evade* not "flee" lol

 

If you have high Flee you have higher chance to dodge, the more you dodge the higher chance you have to evade (Because you have more opportunities to evade cause you dodge alot, the proc rate of evade is still the same) tada!! lol

 

Lol

 

Yea...sadly, it dosnt work like that in the game

 

And btw I did say this "Dodge=Eva" now what I meant by them being one in the same sir, is that without flee you have no dodge, without dodge you have no evasion. It apparently was misunderstood where I was going with my arguement and you for the most part in depth explained what I already stated.

 

*Facepalms*
Guys, don't get confused between Dodge and Evasion. Both are different defense mechanisms/systems.

Dodge is indicated by Flee, which is calculated from Agi stats & Agi/Dodge modifiers.
Evasion doesn't exist on your character and any stats. It comes from gears, crystals and skills.

Refer to this post on how Dodge and Evasion works: http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/full-evasion-calculation.5804/#post-63665

If you want to know about full calculation of Evasion, refer to this post: http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/full-evasion-calculation.5804/#post-63641

 

I'll give this a gander ty

 

this thread took my boredom away hahahaha

in short:
Flee/Dodge = Shows "Miss" = Needs Agi
Evasion = Shows "Flashy sliding sideways and does damage" = Needs "Evasion%"

 

Mnn I'm confused, y am I able to Eva lots of times using heav?
I don't hav any luk or Eva+ stat so why am I able to evade and wat's the diff between Dodge and Eva except from their animation?and lol I just started a fight when I was actually looking for people's opinions and maybe hav sumone test it out woof

 

Please read the links I shared in my post (#32) above.

Dodge
Avoid non-critical hits from mobs, indicated by "MISS" during fights.
Ineffective against critical hits from mobs.
Can be boosted by gears and crystals that give +Agi, +Agi%, +Dodge and +Dodge%.

Evasion
Chance of avoiding non-critical AND critical hits from mobs.
Has ability to counter-attack via evasion attacks when equipped with the right skills and gears.
Evasion is a hidden stat and acquired by character by equipping gears, crystals and skills that give +Eva (Base score) and +Eva%.
Can be boosted by drinking potions.

Note:
Heavy armor doesn't give Evasion. It gives Guard Rate/Guard Power instead.
Light Armor does. It gives Eva +10 Base.
*Battle Skill Eva Up also gives Eva +X Base, where X = [(char level/40)*skill level]

*Allow me to check and verify accuracy and relevancy of details.

 

Eva Up, based on description, increases dodge. so does it still increase evasion or dodge?

 

Descriptions sometimes can be misleading. To the best of my knowledge, Eva Up increases evasion.
I haven't tried this skill, so I stand corrected.
I'm not sure if the devs have changed or modified it over the past few updates secretly.
Let me check the details. Will post here again once I've done so.

 

@Cypherian
Refer to this post by Mugami

And I quote an extract from Mugami's post

I'll get the Eva Up skill later too see if it adds to Flee. I won't be testing for Evasion rate though.

 

Tbh I made this thread to know if this build will work and if it will,wat skills does it need,I made this build because I luv the app of heav abut also love dw