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new sniper build idea?

Discussion in 'Hunter' started by #HASTAG, Jul 8, 2017.

  1. #HASTAG

    #HASTAG Active Member

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    im thinking of a sniper with a staff as main and arrow as sub
    stat: pure str then idk
    a sniper that uses a staff


    i dont know if anyone has made this build already cuz im still confused about marksman/archer skills and its mechanics like:
    -does the arrows element still apply to skills without using a bow?( because the game says on the arrow's stat "available when equipped with a bow" then it shows the stat of the arrow just below it)
    -or does the arrow's element still apply without the bow but only to archer skills?
    -or does element applies to skills when staff as an element

    i barely use archers (help)
     
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  2. imadomo

    imadomo Well-Known Member

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    i think i've seen it somewhere before but its a sword arrow rather than a staff arrow. I was along those line but it would feel kinda slow if you did build it
     
  3. I robot

    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    That's interesting, but the +25%crate is more useful from astute
     
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    I mean, this could work, as staffs have a larger attack growth over 1h. The lack of critical rate boosting skills for staffs means that you'll have to invest in more crit boosting gears. Since all of your attacks are ranged, it's a simple matter to party with a good tank, and make use of your ability to stay away from the boss, unlike 1h / arrow. Furthermore, using both magic and physical skill trees like this, means that you'll easily be able to achieve max proration in your own combos. It'd be your choice if you want a faster combo using the instant cast magic, or a longer combo using the cast time magic.

    Possible Combo:

    Fast (110% Snipe, 1 mp, max proration)
    -Moeba > Javelin (save) > Impact (cons) > Snipe (smite) > Paralysis (cons)

    Long (150% Snipe, 1 mp, max proration) [maybe max out chain cast?]
    -Arrows > Smoke Dust (save) > Lances (cons) > Moeba (cons) > Javelin (swift) > Impact (cons) > Snipe (smite) > Paralysis (cons)

    Equipment:
    Likely a full crit statted staff.
    Mithril Arrow
    Likely full crit armor as well.
    Gothic Hat
    Muscle Talisman III

    EDIT: It seems elements on arrows don't work if you're using a staff as the main weapon. I have adjusted my post.
     
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  5. I robot

    I robot Elite Member Elite Member

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    max proration? wut?
    also, I did not say it was a bad idea, I said sword is generally considered better because of astute. staff has higher raw attack, and that would be helpful for non-evasive bosses. your suggested build has 85% crit rate. that's quite good, but astute critlock is much more useful in n.mare runs. one hit can prevent a wipe, and it is specially painful when that misses. I've been there, and it was the reason I stopped messing with halberds.
    it's kinda like staff fu vs sword fu.
     
  6. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Element on arrows wont work if you have staff equipped.
     
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  7. Arkana

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    Actually I was thinking about the same thing before.

    But my idea is like, using staff and arrow, using SNIPE and STORM as main damage in 1 combo.

    Ex combo: Moeba - Smoke Bomb (save) - Storm (smite) - Impact (cons) - Snipe (smite) - holy fist/astute

    Not sure if that is 1 or 2 mp, but the idea is like that.

    Also, stat more to maximum DEX (for snipe damage and cast speed of storm (?)) and then sub stat goes to INT.

    Just idea, not really sure if anyone already build one or this will even work.
     
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    Low atk and matk. What DEX gives to mage aside from cspd and matk?
     
  9. Arkana

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    Hmm my idea is focusing on snipe damage (isnt it dex?) and storm is there mainly for the proration purpose.

    moeba (physical) - smoke (physical) - storm (magic) - impact (magic) - snipe (physicsl) - holy fist (???)

    correct me if im wrong.
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Should be full str rest int or 200str 100int rest crt for snipe storm build.
     
  11. Arkana

    Arkana Well-Known Member

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    But str will only useful for 1 thing (crit damage). While Dex actually increase snipe damage and it is also increase CSPD (I know it's easy to get 1k cspd, but we will focus the gears on crit and crit more). And not sure if Dex also increase matk for a bit?

    What do you think? Again, this is just a wild raw idea. xD
     
  12. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Staff doesnt gain atk from dex sadly so it really needs str to be able to do decent damage from snipe.
     
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    Alright noted. Thanks for the input.

    But again, have you seen anyone using this kinda build before? Because so far, I only saw arrow mages, which do not use Snipe.
     
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    Stay with bow imo, u wont get 100% stability with a staff
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    I tried it back at the start of beta, its main advantage was the fast mp charge, but now bows will still be the better option
     

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