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New to this forum and game. What to know which class is the best DPS and survivability.

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by Tommy4747, Apr 14, 2017.

  1. Tommy4747

    Tommy4747 Active Member

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    So now I'm starting with staff. Can I get skills from all other classes?
     
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    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Just buy them in the library.
    Also get a knux and equip it yo secondary slot.
    Sakura knux or berserker look best. There like a pices of armor, always sticking to your arm.

    Also hope you have lvl 70+ char.
     
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  3. Tommy4747

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    Thanks guys:) Try it out now:)
     
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    Blondike Well-Known Member

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    Go with halberd they're great soloing class too and great boss dps what more do you want?
     
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    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    The ability to break a boss?
     
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    Hey why do I need 70+ char?
     
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    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    Huh?...oh, you need at least 1 char above 70 to unlock lvl 3 skills for all other characters.
     
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    Nah I ain't got one :/ Just starting:)
     
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    I don't fully agree with you. Given available gear right now, and current level cap allowing access to very advanced skill building, I think high dps and survivability can be obtained pretty easily. Especially on 2H sword users, and Halberd users. If properly prorating, it's pretty easy to hit high numbers with proper gear. And current gear and xtals allow for high hp (forehead protect is hp+1.5k, NM Mask is hp+2K and SNM xtal and Grylle are both HP+500 while SNM adds SR Dmg and LR Dmg+1% and Grylle adds Def and Guard Rate+5%). Not to mention other crystals that add hp/mp. If you properly build your gear, you can have high dps gear while maintaining enough hp for survival.

    For example, my 2H is Lv107, and has 6.7k HP while maintaining 1.4k Base attack (no warcry activated) with an elemental Sword (Element, 12% to Element, crit rate+12% as stats). Without my 2s armor (roga/cera), I'd still maintain 5.7k hp which is more than enough hp still for soloing majority, if not, ALL the bosses currently in game. And only certain bosses are hard hitters, so most times, I barely chug through my pots. And my tempest hits anywhere from 50-70k typically, unless the boss guards, or I'm spamming combo instead of properly prorating.

    So yeah, if he works hard enough, he can build a solo character with high dps and survivability.
     
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    Red_Fox Internet Pirate Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    "enough" is not the same as "the best" :p
    and you have to get enough "enough" to be able to obtain all those specific super rare high level items.
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Mhm for 2h u can easily obtain decent hp and atk, my old 2h last year had 10k hp and 1.3k atk and theres much better gears out now
     
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    Last I checked, the 'best' meant being efficient. And all 3 of my characters that I use for boss farming are efficient in their roles. And all those 'rare' gears can be obtained through hard work/farming. It isn't as rare as you'd make it seem. But you only focused on my gear itself. You still haven't answered to your claim that players can only do one or the other, which I already debunked.

    Also, not all my gear is rare to find. Especially not my add which gives 2k hp. Night Mushroom Mask, which drops in the event on all difficulties. So he can easily just do the event, and then farm on easy for all the rares, including the boss crystas, which also drop from the event bosses even on easy. Easy 2m farm there for Cerabes, not to mention armor dyes, and other boss crystas which will be good starter crystas, and 2 of them being good end game crystas (Cerabes and Super Night Mushroom).

    All in all, don't make a claim unless you're 100% sure it's true. Thanks.
     
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    i have suggested 3 different "allrounder" builds, which obviously can do more than one thing.
    and i linked my Complete Class Guide, which has more than 20 of those.

    i got many negative ratings in previous "the best" discussions when i shared my ideas, because the "the best" was focusing on 1 stat and skill only and sacrificing everything else just for that.
    since then i don't take "the best" threads seriously anymore.

    it also nullifies all Guard and Evasion stats, which is certainly not "the best" option for survival.
    that is what i meant with "you can't get everything at once".
    many strong stat boosts come at a cost or bring some kind of other weakness for balance.
    even though foxes trick people, i always speak the truth in posts.
    you are welcome :p
     
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    I also listed another add that gave 500 less hp and has no negatives, so... where's your excuse there? Or did you not see where Forehead protector was mentioned? Lol. Smh. Self-centered and arrogant. Also, I'd understand worrying about loss of evasion and guard if you were a class who relies on it (shield users/knuckles/dw evasive type/halb evasive type/etc), but not all players rely on those two stats. I know that I don't as a 2h user, and neither does my gm, who also uses Night Mushroom Mask for hp add. And we both solo just fine. And we both deal high dps.

    Seems all foxes are still misleading, including you.
     
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    hmm... those equipment and xtals you mentions are pretty hard to obtain for a newbie... especially the xtals and 2 slot equips... even mino is a chore to defeat for a lvl 70 player with beginner lvl equipment... I.E armigma 0 stats,free failed weapon, etc.. even cerabes xtal is hard to obtain in easy... and a decent armor to add that xtal will go for around 1m.

    1m is not easy to earn for a new player, they can't do TD, they got no ECB to farm, not even NC, heck they ain't even got storm yet....

    also combo is not available to new players... i think you need to learn at least 10 skills to start with combos...



    a decent easy to get balance in survivability and dps is to add around 50 vit.... it scales with your lvl around 3k on lvl50; and around 5k on lvl100 with lvl10 hp boost in survival tree that is...

    I would recommend

    1) 2h as starting character since they are pretty balanced over-all, they got interrupt skills, decent movement, decent range, +crit rate skill, and AOE skills, they even got a chase skill to play with

    2) staff fu is also good, since they got lots of interrupt, an easy to crit skill (triple kick need lvl 70), but range is too short so its a bit hard to evade some aoe


    3) shield mage is easy to increase dmg, lots of aoe skills, stun from shield skills, and hp boost from shield skills, their skills are easily cancelled tho due to close proximity with the enemy...
     
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    the 1500 HP Forehead Protector was a limited event item, which was also a rare drop from high level event bosses.
    welcome to Mad Hatter's tea party! do you want a cookie to your tea? :)
     
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    Good morning/afternoon/evening
     
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    I'd go with shield mage, its not like its THAT easy to cancel out the spells, and after u unleash ur storm you can still walking around avoiding AOEs, solo mazing is also quite easy and has high survivability if u keep throwing the shield and stun the mobs after u use storm
     
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    Its just my personal opinion, I'm by no means an expert who could go around saying which is the best.
     
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    as a magic nerd, i can say that the Staff+Shield combination (without extras) really is the easiest to use.
    whether it's also the most fun is another story... :p
     

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