Next Balance Patch Dreams

Yup I am because there's no point if a developer makes a game that functions exactly like an mmo with strict classes. The two skill trees that work well together so far are mononofu and shot and that's because of the skill triple strike which allows you to combine long range and close range skills together. The build is a proration nightmare however because of it's reliance on pure physical skills which destroy proration.
Same for any physical weapon using dagger and arrow subs.
In short, I'm saying I contradict myself because the classless system is restricted by hardcore implementation not by choice of the player. But it makes no sense moving on if there is no other mmorpg that does it any better. Toram had it nice pre lv100 where both melee and ranged builds were practical no matter how dumb. I like iconos as a boss in particular because it basically gives the middle finger to the proration system. I only which it had a more diverse pattern.
It's pretty sad when the only really popular bosses are roga, iconos and York. The latter two being that they are fairly balanced and don't abuse spikes and waves.
With the evidence being how this game developed, I don't really have that much hope in another surfacing any time soon and avabel lupinus with the fixed class system is pretty much an anime action mmo, new for mobile but not generally unique and will fall short in a few years unlike Toram which could grow indefinitely because of it's open style that means you can design a character anyway you choose, like potentially a bow user that can use priest skills. You wont see that in much MMOs if at all.

 

i agree to this. having no fixed class system skills is one of a kind. maybe this is also one reason why many got hooked into it. and the possible builds are endless we can be everything we want at same time. but as game progresses the development kinda telling us indirectly that we need to focus on a specif role if we want to maximize weapon skills more efficiently. like before the debate that tank staff mages are better because they can do dmg at same time with storm. but when they released finale as matk's highest skills to deliver damage, the argument just died coz itll be a challenge to cast with its long ass cspd without getting interrupted.
This game maybe the only one out there being a classless. so if this is the 1st mmo u played, the thing you know, or you learned on this game might not work/ be applied on other games youll play in the future.

 

I already said this a lot of times before...
Toram doesn't give ya the freedom of being what ya wanna be.
It merely gives ya the illusion and with that illusion it caught many players.
While it does give ya a wide variety of choices, those in the end might not be effective.
Therefore in order to be effective, you're forced into a different choice, therefore taking away your freedom.

Imagine a path...and asobimo giving ya the choice between a car ride and a bicycle.
Ya think the bicycle ride might be fun and ya chose that.....only for asobimo to then cut your tires...
Would you still wanna ride that bike on that path?

 

it can also be a way to trap players. theyre selling skills/stats reset in store anyways. the P.ervert need the money . they selling revive droplets too in bulk! dying is ok and normal too i guess

 

also im salty about this

 

Maybe we should start a Goku VS Superman debate?

 

Tha answer is obvious. Goku can rekt superman anyyime.

 

Goku already lost twice.

 

Before we watch superman get beat up I have a few questions...
So I decided to try making a melee and I picked mofofufo--err katana and i noticed tree 3 has what seems to be some good, albeit on paper, defensive skills.

From what they say they seem pretty good (looking at you magadachi and zentai) and even skills like shukuchi and assault attack make me wonder if its feasible to simply run OoR and return?

I ask because as a tank I see some STRANGE things and occasionally do some strange stuff myself but dudes be dying instead of moving if they arent bow from my experience. Is it possible that the problems that seem anti melee are really a misunderstanding of skill relationships on a macro scale? I plan on testing this stuff out but also ask questions.

 

The thing with Magadachi and Zantei is that they only block ONE hit, and well, you can't exactly use shukuchi in an arena filled with spike traps, which all the bosses seem to abuse these days, and they come loaded with slow ailment.

Well, I've seen some melee players do some incredibly stupid nonsense like this time where ECB was spamming its spike field in the center of the arena and this guy just shukuchi right into it when it stacked at like 4 or so? Was laughing my rear off for a good while after.

Thing is, at that point, no one in the party had any skills to really touch ecb because of the death trap at that point in time letting the fight unnecessarily drag on from what could be a 1 minute battle to 3 minutes+ (The idiot that rushed in was the main DPS).

inb4 Superman 1 million prime solos DBZverse

 

This is why I threw assault in there. When things get rediculous I tend to move the mobs around. Lately I've been leveling up my lowbies so I can get a break from people who run head first into the grave, but I feel like people just wanna fight a wall at times. Maybe my new facination/obsession with gun tank is making me see things different. I DO miss chasing mobs buuut I dont miss it.