Open forum for Dual Wielder's healthy progress: Let's brainstorm and share our thoughts!

My way of thinking is different than yours. Don't quote someone's opinion. Not healthy at all. Let me/them say what we wanna say. If you wanna state something, explain more further, don't quote someone's post and say that you made it yourself. Our words and even our way of explanation is not even close for you to claim mine. That's not healthy at all. Respect someone's thoughts.

 

"Ok so I will respect that one again. Hmm .. "You said your build's purpose" is about "Balance", I think this one right here (The balanced part) contradicts build in a sense of sacrificing one of the most important stats defensive-wise. That sacrificed stats alone defeats "your said purpose." "

And also .. What's wrong about using the word "purpose" if someone already said that and you wanna point it out because that's the part of the topic that you're gonna reply into? hmm ..

 

Yup, thats what I want to be a Jack of All Trades. A build that can do different jobs or can do a variety of useful things, but has no particular specialty

 

Purpose lead to Achieve with balance build?
ur combo is way to low to deal damage.
ur defense IS SUPER LACKING, u can't even achieve tank balance. If u say u can dodge with skills and utility, Breaker, DPS, Tank DW all DW can do the same.
ur breaking power is way too low, tank and DPS dw have better Breaker

What im trying to say is... ur attack /Defense / Breaker is lower than Attacker / Aggro / Utility / AMPR Dw, and u have same utility.
it's not even balance... it's under rated in all side.

Simplest thing to change : change ur combo to stronger 3-4MP combo. It's no use if u have high MP and high ampr (u even sacrifice 1000 hp for 300mp) but u only spam 1 mp combo and deal chip damage. u can do proration while gaining MP and deal higher damage combo with it.

Oh well.... I'll stop comment, I re-build DW 8 times so I totally understand about ur build. Good luck

 

I have dw lvl 84, dex main stat nd some agi and str. is that okay? >.<

 

yep that's how u build DPS but skills, combo management, and equipments will be the real question

 

ohh i see,, am really not good doing combo tho i only have one atm and that astute > hardhit. >.<

 

well... focus on learn about combo u can deal 10+x more damage with combo

 

am getting confused on how many mp should I have wen doing combo. currently only have like 5 bars.

 

@Cella
I already made 4 DW build a pure DPS with Full Dex rest Str, a Tank with Agi & Vit, a DPS with Dex>Agi=Str & this is the fourth one. Im trying to make a new build that can do it all & not focus on just one. I clearly knew what my build is lacking so Im trying to get info to improve it. Ur posts is more likely a disagreement & ur trying to make me change my new objective & just focus on one thing that I already had done on my previous builds. Btw I already said my reasons of my combo so I think I wont repeat it again & also I knew how to make a DPS combo. If I like to make it as a DPS combo I already had done it but I dont coz I had a different objective/idea about it.

Tnx for the Good Luck.

 

My reasons of my combo are:

I use Shadow on the second slot of the combo to quickly reposition myself on the back of the Boss.
Example:
If theres an upcoming front/linear redzone aoes I had enough time to finish Astute & Shadow animation to reposition me before it hit.

If the boss keeps on moving/dashing & had a long distance against me. I will just use Spin. Spin can be cast on a long distance so I can fast reposition using shadow on the back of the boss to continue attacking.

Having shadow on the second slot of the two combos that I use I can quickly reposition repeatedly for survival.

Its a short combo so it ends quickly that gives me flexibility to adapt quickly on current situations.

Astute/Shadow for crit buffs to make skills/autos mostly crits. Spin for blind & knockback. Trigger for motion boost.

Its a quick motion boosting combo that I use for for Auto canceling.

Pros & Cons of my combo.

Pros:
Speed, Survival, Flexibility & Utility.

Cons:
Consistent but Low Damage & more on spamming that affects proration.

If u can make a DPS combo that can do all of this or just considered this rather than just for having a big damage for dps. I will gladly accept it.

 

8 bars is plenty for most needs. 5 is limited but workable with.
You can also make combos that only cost you 1 MP to cast (it can't cost 0, but it can have skills that make you recover more MP than you spent).

 

In other words QD is your best friend kids

Quickdraw really is bae...

 

I made a new combo but its an idea for now. I want to get ur opinions/suggestions about it first. Almost the same reason in making my other combos but has more damage & became a longer combo.

Non-Interrupt Combo:

Astute>Shadow(Save)>Spin(Cons)>Impact(Cons)>Phantom(Smite)>Trigger(Cons)

Interrupt Combo:

Spin>Shadow(Save)>Astute(Cons)>Impact(Cons)>Phantom(Smite)>Trigger(Cons)

Nvm I think I already knew what I want now

 

Yay more tornadoes everywhe- *sees post got updated*... T-T
For interrupt combo, you can also use Hard Hit as an opener. The only boss that's reactive to Flinch and nothing else is DG, and flinching stops more things than Knockback.
Also, unless you plan to have a low cost SStep for constant dodging, you can lower SStep's level to 6. This will allow you to have a Swifted or Smited Spinning that still has a decent chance to crit.
Otherwise, I have not much to say (as you acknowledged the length of your combo)
Again, just 2 cents of a nub.

 

@TheXIIIthGuy
Tnx for the idea. I can make the lvl of Shadow to lvl 5/6 coz I will just use it for repostion & crit. Maybe I will swift Spin to make it faster.

What do u think is more viable QD or Impact?

 

When I said "constant dodging", I meant to have the skill in your shortcuts to instantly dodge a stray AoE while you're prorating. If you want to do that, having it at max lvl is essential.
Also, Impact is better IMO. While we do regain MP with QD, it's still a pretty low chance, and Impact just offers so much combo flexibility.

 

Also as a DW if you use trigger as combo finisher you probably won't even need QD because of the boosted ampr.

 

Yeah, you don't really need Quick Draw for any DW build to work. But admit it: if you have a strong 3 - 5 MP combo that you use to dish out damage, seeing that extra MP recovery feels good!