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Possible rework on magic blade?

Discussion in 'Warrior' started by Shiroito, Feb 24, 2019.

  1. Shiroito

    Shiroito Well-Known Member

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    Hello people!
    Aside from enchanted blade rework I wanna know if there has been any other skill rework for the mblade tree since my mblade now can magic crt no problem only by haven the right element on MD.
    I'm using icebrand glacier as my main sword because the additional magic and the atk up by int and I can crt consistently with burst doing actually more dmg than I do wirh a no crt burst.
    I remember perfectly how in the past whenever I managed to land a magic crt its dmg got cut by half or so.
    Anyways I'm curious if any of u guys did experience something similar.
     
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    did you get Spellburst?
    at lv10 it applies 25% of your total critical rate and critical damage to magic attacks.
    this doesn't require element advantage.

    weaken applies another 50%, so with both you get 75% of your total critical rate and damage.
     
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  3. Shiroito

    Shiroito Well-Known Member

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    Didn't even cap my main to 180 yet xD
     
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    Weaken 100% success on LVL10 right ? Do you still remember what is the cool down for Weaken Ailment on BOSS ?
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    It can be used immediately, unless the boss has different mechanics, like the 30 sec freeze on titan crystal
     
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    So mean I can keep trigger Weaken by using Element Slash > Impact > Finale with 100% MCR ( if my base PCR is +100 ) without waiting ?
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    Yes, you should be able to immediately inflict the ailment, just like slow or freeze in general. It also reduces enemy's mdef by 25%. Hence it might be worthwhile to make a 1h magic blade debuffer/support with burst and a100% p. Crit even if weaken's useless on finale's m.Crit chance
     
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    Oh didn’t know Weaken useless on finale MCR chance, but why? Was thinking if using M7%CRCRCR18 weapon and gear, then cover with some other MATK/CD boost gear or xtal, will the Weaken + Magic Burst/Finale deal great damage....unfortunate not yet 180 and no Magic Bladr Book to test...
     
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    "When equipping One-Handed or Two-Handed Swords, Weapon ATK is added to MATK like Staffs and Magic Devices."

    So does that mean 2h warcry and berserk boost matk in the process?
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    You need elemental advantage for the magic Crit to work.

    Also, one thing to note, element slash is classified as magic attack but works like physical attack such as it can graze, miss and evaded. Physical crit won't really help here as it uses m. Crit instead, so assuming you use spellburst the m.Crit rate would be a quarter of your p.Crit rate. Its like the opposite of punish ray.

    So if you're getting punish ray and use element slash afterward it would be ideal as it will have +150 p.Crit . 175/4=43.75% magic Crit. That's the hit rate of your element slash, we're not even talking about the magic you might use afterwards.

    This 1h magic blade build really needs a rather complicated combination of skills and gears to make it somehow practical
     
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    No, atk is different from weapon atk (ie. Refinement, base wep atk, and wep atk% stats)
     
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    Oh man that sucks... I was hoping for something better out of this. I'm doing some digging around and trying to figure out what in the world these devs were thinking touching such a lolable build especially since I feel like finale has met it's end (no pun intended) or rather that mages have become too slow for battle and support isn't ready yet. So maybe another look into this smh-worthy tree might help.


    Edit: After having looked over some stuff I decided to give this build a try. I believe there's a ton of dmg in 2h but loosing MD means loosing Weaken and instant MP which puts me in a tight spot since they don't let 2h use MD ; ; (yet halb can use an arrow? ffs)
     
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  13. Shiroito

    Shiroito Well-Known Member

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    Update: Being playing with this little girl all day and so far I'm enjoying it a lot.



    Don't mind the dmg. Atm only got 1,8k Matk and have to farm proper gears u.u
    Something I noticed is whenever I break a boss part the dmg that applies per tap is matk and not my atk, don't know if it is because sword conversion or magic warrior mastery.

    Btw, I can get a bit more dmg If I use the enchanted blade buff xP.
     
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    @Shiroito tap damage is atk+matk, reduced by def and mdef
     
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    Shiroito Well-Known Member

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    Definitely there has been a rework on magic blade skills since today I was able to weaken Lapin and Tyrant machina (both neutral element) while I got the enchanted blade's buff. Guess is not that useless xD
     
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    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    Ermm you wont expect to use md +2h right?
     
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    you must remember that you could inflict weaken to any monster with 10% probability, just that when you use MD with stronger element against the monster that the chance multiplied by 10 making it 100%. It's always like that from the first time released.
     
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    That explains the weaken infliction but why was I able to crt my magics? @.@
     
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    Aside from the spell burst passive, the magic crit mechanic did slightly change in the update. Before, to crit, I needed the strong element of MD to land weaken and the enemy’s weak element of staff to actually get critical hits. Now I just need the strong element of MD to land weaken and any element BUT the enemy’s weak element of staff.(including neutral which was not possible before)
     
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  20. Shiroito

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    That explains why I was able to crt on Don Yeti much more using water blade (icebrand glacier) + fire element MD.
     
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