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Discussion in 'Secondary Trees' started by Alycia, Jul 19, 2015.

  1. h0tcak3s

    h0tcak3s i want a pet beluga

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    i wouldnt really invest in a 10, wud probably just do 1 or a max of 5. cus as of now, there hasnt really any bosses that is worth investing that skill to.
     
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    izami.yuki Active Member

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    okay~ :) but is it strong?
     
  3. h0tcak3s

    h0tcak3s i want a pet beluga

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    well......i agree with the players who posted in this thread saying that the skill is a tad bit confusing lol
    i wouldnt really call it strong, but it is fast and effective if you want a skill that is instant XD
     
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    okay~ Thanks a lot! :)
     
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    Samm Well-Known Member

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    Fey does it scale on int or agi?
     
  6. h0tcak3s

    h0tcak3s i want a pet beluga

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    that i havent really tried cus i only added 1 skill point to my staff using priest,
    you wanna try it out?

    edit : then we can compare our atks. one thing i notice tho, the atk is not stable, so it fluctuates.
     
  7. Samm

    Samm Well-Known Member

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    It's a really weird skill tree..
    I'm guessing INT
    Bless is like a healing spell so the skill tree should be INT right?
    BUT holy fist is said to be a magic attack but is physical.. what the??

    Edit: I have 2 more slots on my alt, I may go learn the skill and place it on both chars with diff stats to compare, will update you guys on my findings when I get the time to.

    I'm curious, does it 'break'?
    Cos if it does... mage break skill!
     
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  8. WindSlash

    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    Hmm. It might be worth a try: an Int/Agi Knuckles character w/ Priest Skills.
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    Yeah... This idea... It is kinda like Iruna's Monk class right? It feels similar for some reason...
     
  9. Islandi

    Islandi Well-Known Member

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    But with Agi... wouldn't that make the same weakness as brawler's with low accuracy... and then we have to add crit or dex to compensate? o_O

    I have tested with INT because I have a mage. Holy Fist and Holy Light's damages improves with INT. No idea for Agi though.

    As to why it is categorised as a physical.. some martial skills can use "spiritual power" (read magic / INT) to cause physical damage.
     
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    You would miss about just as much with Holy Fist too you know? Besides, Holy Fist can get a Critical hit, and Knuckles has better crit rate than staff.

    Also, from what I understand, Holy fist damage goes up with combination of Matk AND Atk, not on any basic stat like Int or Agi.
     
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    If Holy Fist damage = F(Matk+Atk), then wouldn't adding more points to INT be favorable since +1 INT = +4Matk?
    I'm not sure how many points would make aspd max, but after that I think it'll be a adding mix of INT and Dex or Crit after maxing aspd.

    From what I've observed:
    1 INT = 4 Matk
    1 AGI = 2 Patk, 6 aspd, 1 cspd

    I'm not sure about Flee though..
     
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  12. Samm

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    That's exactly the reason why.. I'm curious!

    Well I used 2 spare char slots to test the skill up
    Control:
    Both char has holy fist lvl 10
    Both char 25 stat each:
    I. E.
    Char 1: 25 INT (note numerical value not type of stat)
    Char 2: 25 AGI (note numerical value not type of stat)

    Variable:
    One char on INT (note: type of stat)
    One char on AGI (note: type of stat)

    EXPERIMENT:
    Damage observed (only normal attack, do not count crits)
    Per character, test of knuckle and magic device

    Damage values:
    Agi + knuckles: 301 - 321
    Agi + magic device: 189 - 215

    Int + knuckles: 255 - 288
    Int + magic device: 260 - 298

    The results are quite surprising.
    I seem to be getting highest scores on AGI + knuckle, and lowest scores on AGI + MD

    INT on the other hand seems to be giving a relatively stable output, around the same numbers, with MD on a slightly higher score

    Seems that the scaling for holy fist is tuned to AGI?

    Edit: I threw in the experiments for bless as well -
    EXPERIMENT:
    Per character, test of knuckle and magic device

    Bless values:
    Agi + knuckles: 60
    Agi + magic device: 60

    Int + knuckles: 63
    Int + magic device: 63
    Seems that INT has a higher heal score compared to AGI. It's also noted that the weapon type does not affect the bless amount.

    can someone dissect my results and confirm my hypothesis and results?
     
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    WindSlash Guardian Angel of Picos Elite Member

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    Again, why limit knuckles to agi? Int-to-Matk on knuckles scales the same way with Int-to-Matk on Staff: 1 int= 4matk.

    My guess is that all priest skills arent dependent on int at all, but to Matk.

    That said, I think Int also adds some amount of atk too, but I can't remember the value atm. But yes, I think As a source of raw damage for holy fist, using staff gives more. However in terms of critical damage, I would rather lose some damage and use knuckles
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    If u use a staff the bless will be higher depending on ur matk and int, 25matk=1bless 20int=1bless with staff only, havnt tested the other weapons but without a staff bless isnt at its max potential
     
  15. h0tcak3s

    h0tcak3s i want a pet beluga

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    INT affects your MATK and in return affects your heals and bless. I had a full VIT healer tank, and my bless was crap XD
     
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    -Gloria: Increase DEF and MDEF for a short time. Guard rate will increase if you equip a shield.

    And from the shield skilltree:
    -Protection: Increase party members' Physical Resistance and decrease Magic Resistance for a limited time.
    -Aegis: Increase party members' Magical Resistance and decrease Physical Resistance for a limited time.
    (a friend told me that these two, if used together would cover up the other's weakness.)

    Does anyone know if it's worth getting Gloria if one already has Protection and Aegis? Or vice versa?
     
  17. Ardyn

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    The damage reduction of Protection and Aegis stacks with Gloria, so it's worth getting if you want to receive smaller dmg.
    Protection reduces around 3% of physical damage every level so at level 10, it reduces 30% physical dmg received.
    I guess it's the same with Aegis?

    Tested on a Level 5 character with Boss colon ( Lvl 10 Protection, Lvl 10 Aegis )
    Without any buffs, Boss colon dealt 8-10 physical damage. 10 was a good basis for the damage reduction
    With Protection, Boss Colon dealt 5-7 physical damage. So 30% was reduced

    With Aegis, Boss Colon Dealt 9-11 damage
    With both Protection and Aegis, Boss Colon Dealt 7-8 damage, so I guess casting both helps? Idk the rest xP
    I think this test was too small tho. So correct me if I did or said anything wrong.
     
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  18. Moon Lit

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    Did you try this with a staff as they have higher att in general?
     
  19. Astarot

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    On the holy fist skill using staff, do str int be viable? Because 1str= 3 attk, 1 int = 4 mattk.
     
  20. XPhoeniX

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    The skills sound more like an exorcist than just a priest
     

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