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Proficiency leveling

Discussion in 'Production Class' started by Beenads, Sep 26, 2016.

  1. Beenads

    Beenads Member

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    Hey guys, so I just started a blacksmith. I read in some guides that if you put stats in tech, you'll be able to craft rapiers right away to gain super fast exp for your proficiency. However, when I did craft the rapiers, I was expecting my proficiency to jump at least 1 lvl. But from lvl 1, I crafted one and it gave me 29% or something. Still lvl 1... Now I crafted a short sword (super easy) and that gave me 28% or so. How is it that a super easy barely no mats sword gave me 28% and a pretty tough rapier to get all the mats took awhile and only gave me 1 or 2% more than a short sword. Any idea what's going on? Or is that normal.
    Thanks!
     
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    Maybe you should craft equipment with easy gathered materials first like short and long swords. Then switch to the next equipment when you no longer gain enough percent to level.

    Also if you're a TEC smith, you do not need to level your proficiency because you will not be making high potential equipment anyway. You'll just need to level the smith character so you can put high stats on the equipment you're customizing.
     
  3. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Mr.nova closed the thread from more replies so i will tell you here,
    You can only get max 29-30% prof per craft if the item lvl of the weapon/armor is higher than your prof
    So getting max tech and then resetting is not as useful as some people think it is
    In fact its kinda a waste of reset book, since you can also get around 34-36tech and keep crafting the weapon with the highest item lvl possible till you reach 75prof(current cap), and put the rest stat points on your specific stat
    The only downside here is you will have to keep farming different mats unlike mass crafting rapiers, most of the time there will be no one else farming at that spot where you need the mat, so you will need the help of your friends/guildmates.
    I hope you kinda get what i am trying to explain :,)
     
  4. Beenads

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    Well I'm confused lol, how come in his guide it says to do the mass crafting? It doesn't give me good xp at all! Took me awhile to get the mats for rapier but I get same xp as a easy short sword that requires no mats... So the guide is completely useless and false?
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Its not completely false, only the fact that you need to have a reset book in order to gain prof, you can do it without resetting too
    This all actually began way back when rapier was released, everyone used to farm for its mats since they were kinda easy to farm(compared to mats for other gears), because of this rapier mats were kinda cheap and people could afford to buy a LOT of them
    By getting pure tech and then mass crafting rapiers they could reach high prof very quickly and then start crafting high lvl items immediately.
    But now crafting just rapiers is no longer good since its mats are no longer cheap and hardly anyone farms it, and the prof cap is way higher than rapiers item lvl.
    Seriously it keeps getting tougher and tougher for new players to make a bs crafter because of this ever expanding prof cap
     
  6. Beenads

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    Well I already put 100 points in tech lol. Is that a problem? So I don't mind farming for rapier mats, but not if it only gives me 28% prof compared to 27 from easy short sword lol..
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Rip you can remake the char if its not high lvl or if you are ok with using reset book,
    Keep making short swords till the point where it starts giving 1-2% or no prof% then craft rapiers again you can save mats for rapier this way,
    You will notice that shortsword will start giving 1-2% after some time while rapier will keep giving 28% for longer time
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    If only this stupid thing let me upload pics........
    I could explain you the best way
     
  9. Janine

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    Hmmm..it just depends on which weapons/gears you're trying to craft. Tech doesn't give you much potential unlike the other stats VIT,DEX,STR,INT & AGI.
    Lemme quote you here "How is it that a super easy barely no mats sword gave me 28% and a pretty tough rapier to get all the mats took awhile and only gave me 1 or 2% more than a short sword." At what lvl did you craft short swords? And rapiers? And what exactly do you want to craft? DEX=bowguns,bows and 1h swords INT=staves&magic devices AGI=knuckles STR=2H swords VIT=armors TECH=all types of gears,more success but the downside to it is that it gives you low potential.
    At a low level, around lvl10-20, I suggest that you should've crafted wood swords till it doesn't give you proficiency anymore, then go to Debacky Channel, farm ruin rats for small gloves and small hilts, then craft knuckles and swords that uses up those mats till they can no longer give you proficiency. After that, craft adventurer's garbs and leather armors. Lvl up your chara, then craft elflames, great sword, mage rod. Just repeat the process, craft items until the lower items can no longer give you proficiency
     
  10. Beenads

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    Janine, I'm following a guide that someone wrote. I don't care about potential, it was a fast level guide for proficiency and I read that getting tech high and crafting rapiers gets you high Xp for proficiency but doesn't really give me any more exp than short sword
     
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    So I'm assuming you'll be making TECH bs then? Yehh even if your crafts have low potential, it'll still be doable if you follow wyrix's stat formulas. There'll be stats that would only require a minimum of low pots. So anyways, you don't have level up proficiency if you'll just be making TECH bs ^^ since you won't be resetting it to any type of bs anyway. TECH stats, makes most of your crafts, if not all of your crafts successful ^^ doesn't matter if your prof is low :) and you don't have to worry about difficulty level since tech raises it ^^
     
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    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Erm.. Mistress i think you are misunderstanding
    He wants to make craft bs but he just thought that making gear with very high item lvl will give very high increase in prof too like 90-100% instead of 28-29%
     
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    Then I must've misunderstood what he said. If he's just gonna reset anyway, he picked the wrong stat, DEX would've been so much better, by crafting bguns and swords to raise prof, you would've been able to sell them at a decent amount. Tech stats, if you reset, your "difficulty" level may not make it to the borderline of high level/good enough gears -.- and you can't get 90-100% lol xD highest percentage of proficiency % you'll be getting from crafting are around 30-31% :') fyi, wood swords would've at least raised your prof up to lvl11 ^^ adv garb,leather arm>lvl21

    And p.s. please don't call me mistress as I hate that word so much, it defines differently to me
     
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    :confused: I cant understand u. U said u dont care about Potential so whats the point of raising ur Proficiency. Proficiency is for making the equipment with higher potentials. And, if ur using Tech it will raise ur difficulty so u can craft any equipment without raising proficiency. :confused:
     
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    Finally! Someone who got the same thing I did! XD I thought about too lol. Didn't understood what he was saying since he didn't mentioned which BS he'd be making so I assumed he'll be making tech bs
     
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    But.. But.. U r my senpai milady, your highness
     
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    I just followed that guide two days ago( reset stat guide ) i thought it still work ,but yeah at first time , i just compared the prof gain by making sword vs rapier. It gives 26-29% but after i reach higher lvl prof the sword exp gain decrease , and the rapier still give 29% , then i think the rapier actually give more , well the difficult level also different from sword :p ( btw im new here , dont trust me lol i still do trial and error )
     
  18. Beenads

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    Lol to everyone... There's a guide to level up proficiency fast by putting points in tech just to level up proficiency, and then resetting to full vit to make armour. The guide says to craft rapiers to gain fast exp for proficiency, but to me it doesn't give me more exp than a short sword gives. I was just confused by how this guide works cause it doesn't seem efficient for me at all. And if you don't know which guide it is, it's mr.nova wrote it. Check it out and comment back to see what I'm talking about! Haha
     
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    lmao I already read that thread long time ago Im just confused of what u said about u dont care about potential and ur just raising ur proficiency. But, dont worry I already get what ur saying :p
     
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  20. Beenads

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    Lol Kk good! So is that guide not good? Cause Crafting rapiers isn't going to raise my proficiency faster than short swords lol.
     

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