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[Ranting] can I get whatever Dev smoking when they balancing toram ?

Discussion in 'Katana' started by Bismarck, Jun 9, 2018.

  1. Isra

    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    The same can be said for GSW finale users who take like half the time. Not to forget Star Gems also exist in Toram. Wouldn't doubt they go up to lvl 4 now. It's almost like the storm argument over 2 years ago, and for once I'm on the side of the skill user. Give mages love bro, they were basically forgotten for a long while, especially after Halb and Tana dropped. Let em have their badassery for this one time.
     
  2. Bismarck

    Bismarck Active Member

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    you word look so humble but still big egoist side.
    yes, i will admit it. i am an egoist, Who dont ? you can see all over the toram world almost all player is egoist. example. party leader shout. ty pt when the party is bad.
    why not just go on low and help newbie fight boss yea u will get attack rank .
    1. my free time is limited, and my money too is limited, i cant buy spina everytime. low rank boss cant be sale for buying potion.
    2. see why i rant, lower level, lower equipment. that means i helping lower player. turns out, they outrank me. do i have to fight colon boss to get my rank ?
    3. i know my role, tyvm, but lately, party leader only shout mass kill finale & tank only. and balance party is very very very very very hard to get. and mages never (at least in my experience) thank me for being meat shield, only criticize me or just, leave. when we die, and boss aiming to them. like defender or goalkeeper in soccer team. only get criticize.

    and the answer just why u not play another job if on your mind katana are weak?
    dps now go to mage finale. remember this all job have role. if u want get rank attack just use mage or dont pt with mage.

    thats make me even more egoist. and do you mind if i ask question ? will you throw your money to be a loser ? will you do it if you wont get satisfaction, only disappointment over and over ?
    i play for fun, satisfaction, blow up some stress, i am not a hardcore gamer who have many free time, those days are gone.
    heck i even became a lowly wallet warrior because i still longing for game, but my situation not permit me.


    PS. Katana Is Love, Samurai Is Live. Dual Katana I Hope, Shinobi I like (to have in the future)

    the last i play with 3 mage finale. on gem run srd tyrant nightmare. i m the only one katana user. all say thanks to me. even i m not get the attack rank all 3 rank i got it. that the pride. mage without mele user will have hard time . cuz i know what my role
    i envy you, and i know many samurai will envy your experience.
     
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  3. Bismarck

    Bismarck Active Member

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    REALLY !? (considering to sale my account, hiatus, looking other game or just buy myself a console game with trainer pack)
     
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    Ari999 Well-Known Member

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    In all fairness, i can see why he as a katana would feel upset
    Imagine putting all your time, effort and money on something you loved doing, only it ends up not doing the job it used to
    Because a new superpower comes in

    A new supermarket comes in and kills your business
    He's pretty much a proration slave to mages
    And as melee he has to be more upfront and risk being hit with attacks

    Of course there's always the golden advice used at every fighter tournament

    "Dont get hit"

    Just try aiming for other ranks my dude

    As a Halb-dagger I've been going for breaker now and its going well for me
     
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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    By all means if this has turned into Katana is weak ad Mage/Archer/Gunner is super op wah wah, stuff it. Every build has a role and even then any build can out dps the other with the right build and the right skills. Don't blame your ability to hit higher damage than them on the game. It may come easier for them, but that doesn't mean you can't beat a 2s gear mage with a boos drop gear knuckles in a dps contest
     
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    I aiming for support role now. its more fun that way. i can see battlefield more clear, and make the battle easier to manage, still got complain by mage tho, but, who care. as long as the battle finished under 2 minutes. and i survive (and my spina too) i content with that.

    one of my pupil introduce me a hat name Wind Up Key, and heck, i love that thing. i even make it 2 slots and +S. No Delay Attack. LOVE IT. -10% Stabilize is hurt, but nothing Shishui cant fix.
     
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    The mentality may be different honestly between different people

    Like for me coming from a fighting game community, if you want to win you either have to pick a top/high tier role or put in extra effort
    But the thing is, between a low tier and a high tier character, if you put that much effort into the high tier as you did with the low tier you'd achieve more

    It boils down to what ru said tbh

    If you want attacker rank a lot go for the classes that easily achieve it

    It's hard out dpsing professional mage/bows as a knucks user right?
     
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    Lil☆Neko Well-Known Member

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    I think the new gespenst event makes everyone think twice about being finale because katana users will most likely take attacker - your 3 seconds cast time probably will get you knock back, flinch from full field spikes (oh how i love those) - or if you manage to cast finale, the boss just moves super fast and dodges it entirely.
    Katana is able to attack that boss easily for a lot of damage (hi tenryu) many times without much mp cost and often takes attacker easily. As a finale mage main (i honestly wish i had something other than a med level cf user) i find that it's impossible for me to take attacker in that event ever, and i appreciate pro (not pro gear - pro at handling their character) katana users, bc they're the ones who probably can finish it off at the end.
    For the first time in toram history - 3x finale + tank isnt the best PT anymore.
     
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    Ari999 Well-Known Member

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    Agreed I actually love that you're forced mix up your party

    Flexibility wins this
     
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    regardless, it still depends on katana users' skills to make the pt - i've seen so many ktn users get kicked for sucking - falling off in the second stage or getting knocked out before the end of the first (mage) stage. As a mage my main role is to deal with the first stage then focus on reviving dead party members, or acting as the secondary tank with p defense.
    the fact asobimo starts it off with very low magic reistance allowing you to hit hard is so evil. Mages think that they will shine at this once again, then the spikes come out and "syke [insert that word], you thought", mages suck for the rest of the match.
     
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    Ari999 Well-Known Member

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    "LF#M CF/FINALE"
    Cries in halb

    Not often I get picked, and i dunno how many katanas get picked either but all I know is people want cf and finale users above all
     
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    Alycia What did I miss? Elite Member

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    How is leaving a bad pt being an egoist?
    An egoist is a person that brags about everything. An egotistic person, too full of himself.
    Example: "Look at my 2s equipment you scum of a f2p player." That's an egoist.
    "I gtg bye", and swapping to another party? That's perfectly normal in any MMO. If you can't even kill a boss with that pt, why stay?
     
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    i do not want to argue. lets finish this here.
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    If you can't even kill a boss with that pt, why stay?

    is the egoist part.
    Know your role, teamwork, etc etc etc people said. but. what people do is "just LEAVE".
    do they type any word ? NOPE. do they encourage other player to do a teamwork ? NOPE. do they ask for combine effort ? BIG F*****G NOPE.
    if they talk to each other and ask other player to fill their role. nothing they cant beat.
    Leaving a party without effort to make better team play is an
    Egoist in my book.
     
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    Isra Cock and Ball Torture Elite Member

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    You can't fix a bad team. That's like trying to say you just need better team play and all you have are tanks. No, you don't need better team play, you need a better team
     
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    Agreed to all hell
    If the team isn't working out for you there is no reason to continue being in that party only to waste resources and time
    A bad team is a bad team, you can talk to them first but if it doesn't work out still then you abandon them
     
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    Alycia What did I miss? Elite Member

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    You do you, but having 4 tanks or 4 glass cannons isn't really getting you anywhere. Yeah, you could ask them to change, but what if they only had dps? What then? You expect them to produce a character that will help the pt instantly? Build a new character from scratch just so they can function in your party while not being labeled an "egoist" by you? They'll rather leave for a party that actually needs them than to straight up change their play style.
    My point is, sometimes there's no saving a party that just wouldn't work. And it saves your time by just re-partying anyways. BOOKS ARE A THING. And they are EXPENSIVE.

    As Isra said,
    "You can't fix a bad team. That's like trying to say you just need better team play and all you have are tanks. No, you don't need better team play, you need a better team."
     
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    Many lvl 155s have good 2s gear mainly from buying spina (ahem), and they dont know how to battle at all. I've been in pts with 155s that dont know what proration is and just spam attacks. There's no point in partying with players that do that (and get mad if you tell them to stop spamming skills), especially if they die 15 seconds after the battle starts. They waste your time to get event drops with a decent party, and energy bottles which is extremely expensive now.
    There's no point in having 2 finale users in gespenst battle so if i get invited to a pt with a finale user already, there's no reason for me to stay since (1) it wont end well (2) the party isnt efficient - basically you're not needed. It's better to leave a party that's destined to fail, then stick with them while they still get mad over why they fail.
    [insert comment about true egoists whose name starts with k- and ends with -lause]
     
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    Alycia What did I miss? Elite Member

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    Haha XD klause
    He's not even an elitist. He's a joke.
     
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    The Finale skill is a joke can't even deny this tho
     
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    Agree to disagree then. For the point leave before doing anything.
    You are you, i am me. carry on.
    I Accept different Attitude, POV & opinion. That makes us human have civilization.
     

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