refining t4 skill will anti-degs price drop?

will t4 refining skill make refining become less expensive or it actually doesn't do anything at all .... just a waste of 10 skill points? and what about oricalcum? it should at least take a little burden off from refiners, right?

 

When it comes to the market, you have to take demand into consideration. As of now, everyone is trying to get new weapons with the new stats. New weapons being bought and sold equals a higher demand for refining. Theoretically, a higher demand for refining equals a rise in price. But there are many other factors that play into part, and the Toram market can sometimes be a bit unpredictable with its price drops/rises. Regardless, I don't quite understand your question. First of all, most people buy orichalcums from Sololo, where the price never changes. Orich's board price is irrelevant since no one buys from there.
Why would T4 skills reduce the price of orich and anti-degs? You still need to use anti-degs and ores to refine. The skill doesn't make it so that you can refine out of thin air.. I'm not sure of the exact calculations, but the success rate of refining increases with the skill. This is not a waste of skill points at all, unless you are not a refiner.

 

I am taking about my expenses of refining an equipment to +S ^-^ well +A/+S need lot of anti-degs to hit refining,like without t4 skill I can refine a 4th anniv equipment to +S with 4 to 8 stk anti-degs, and probably 1stk oricalcum (if not too lucky) so will my resource reduce a little if I put 10 more stat points to master t4 refining skill or its just a waste ? Or t4 skill is just to show off nothing else ? I will have to keep using 4 to 8 stk to hit +S , hope u understood what I meant this time around ^-^

 

Try it and decide it for yourself.

 

If I had to try it and decide my self then I wouldn't have been looking for help in Toram forum ^-^ anyway I do wish to have some good/useful reviews about refiner all around the world who used t4 refining mastery and Is it really worth putting 10 skill points

 

by taking the 10 skill points you can ref to A with tech char (basically +A is the new +B)

Spoiler: With and without T4

 

Anti deg price won’t drop, because +S still is difficult.

 

I don't know if it's good refining +a using orichalcum. With 2.5% success rate maybe its better using the old way of luc bs.
But refining to +b is definitely better using tec bs.

 

So I don't actually need to waste 10 skill stat points? Right?

 

Increase the success rate in another meaning is cost saving, so if you rich enough then don’t need. Like alchemist skill the item synthesis I never learn at all, the success rate not much different just the outcome become less.

 

It's not a waste to invest 10 points in tier 4 imo.

With that 10 points, the risk of getting to + B and A is reduced a little bit which means less ori and anti deg used even if not that massive, it still helps reduce the cost unless you're super unlucky that is.

 

nah, actually it will up since people are changing gears, so they are likely to burn tons of anti-degs rn. Usually, high demand means higher prices (anti-deg was 400k a stk just a month ago -__-)

 

More easy but price anti will not drop

 

Actually it rises
Now its 1m per stk (probably people rushing)

I'll give it bit of time before i even start refining.
Tho, i love the fact that i can ref to D only with mithril (C, if im really that determined)

 

I don't get it actually if this image is true then why do we even need technology stat? Can't we just use luck refiner from 1 to +S ? If the hit rate is that great =_= .... we just need to change the ori/metal to refine.. totally a logicless system imao

 

Those table have "Tier 4 Skills Success Rate" which means the calculations if u maximize all refining skills up to lvl 4 and also with Max TEC stat....
https://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/character-stats-impact.45626/
Check here for details on stat

 

The percentage show in the list is assuming player have TEC254/255 and have all refine skill in LvL10, without TEC and the skill the success rate will drop ( not sure how much but very worst).
Yes, you can use LuK-refine from l+1 ~ +S, but you going to spend a lot of spina and ore just to reach +B, and +S still waiting in front of you.

Previously player use LUk-refine from +B to +S because no matter you have 255 TEC or max all Refine Skill, the success rate is fix at 1%, thus using LuK stat to reduce the drop is more efficiency.

 

But at t3 refining skill I only used 30 skill points at 255 tec bs to reach 1 to +B, and to refine +A to +S I only used 1 skill point at refining skill at 255 luk character so now do I need to put 40 skill points? In both bs just to save a little bit of spina/cost/resources? Is this even considered fair? And all my skill points are been used now I can't even aquire skill point , so how can this be considered fair by asobimo?

 

e_e wtf, the tier 4 smith refine skill is made to make +A possible with max tech char.

You can either choose to use tech to +A or luck to +A. You don't need to put any points on your luck char because tier 4 refine skill not gonna increase the success rate without the tech stat.

This is really a pointless rant imo.

 

Like I said in the title because of t4 skill will anti-degs price drop ? Or not ^-^ as we can see anti-degs isn't a limited drop and can be processed by doing sub-quests and bots are farming them 24/7 , some people are buying them mindlessly just to get more profit but isn't it just like being scammed? 1stk anti-deg is already 800k+ if we don't need so many anti-degs to refine +A shouldn't it's price drop asap? And if t4 refining skills aren't useful then why bother wasting 10 skill points? 10 skill point's can get u useful skills instead which is 15m+ in consignment board rn, well I am not an idiot so I will keep doing what I feel right to me, if someone wishes to shut me down just because we have different point of views then I can only say mAh