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Regarding Tenryu Ransei

Discussion in 'Katana' started by P y r o., Apr 12, 2018.

  1. P y r o.

    P y r o. Well-Known Member

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    I cant see where can I benefit from this skill , let me explain why;
    1. First of all , why the hell does my Zantei dmg reduced when I used Tenryu Ransei ? Its "special attack" isnt so special after all. :mad:
    2. 6MP in total if done 4x in succession before buff timer ends (3MP+1+1+1)
    3. Sure it increases motion speed per use , but In my oppinion , its SLOPPY , very sloppy
    4. Digging for more ampr when you have just shukuchi lvl10 isnt that satisfying

    Change my mind about this skill please , I really want to use it if I knew what its full potential was but it seems... meh :(
     
  2. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    Cant change your mind, it's just as bad as you think.
     
  3. RyeUshio

    RyeUshio The Blue Bull Super Likable Elite Member Epic Member

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    Other Tier4 skills either make us or break us. ^_^
     
  4. P y r o.

    P y r o. Well-Known Member

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    Its either that or remove all them Oledon xtals and get a fullcrt equips head to toe for that newly damned skill :( with the new skill here now , I already see peeps selling Oledons for 4m r n :(
     
  5. Laxus

    Laxus Well-Known Member

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    Ya katana already known as op so maybe they don't want to make it more op.Cause then everyone run towards katana and rest watching faces.so like real world Dev make balance in game too soo mage got high DMG now and knux too and helb soo now its all balanced think again see all builds are balanced now.
    THE WHOLE POINT OF LVL 4 SKILLS
     
  6. P y r o.

    P y r o. Well-Known Member

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    In Katana's case , Break. But not just normal break , Fullbreak :oops:
     
  7. P y r o.

    P y r o. Well-Known Member

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    You got a point there , well guess its better NOT to take the lvl4 skills , one that costs 6mp to be decent , one has -100 Crit rate at lvl10 and the last one puts your butt on a burning stove to get some little dmg
     
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  8. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    No.... Devs over buff other class and killed katana
     
  9. P y r o.

    P y r o. Well-Known Member

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    Katana is too op , Asobimo nerfed them so hard that katana users will dissapoint their parents and commit Sudoku xD
     
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  10. Laxus

    Laxus Well-Known Member

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    Yep he over buff others cause ?_?
    Katana don't need any buff or skill since zentai give 1M DMG what more u want from it.
    But others like mage and knux are left as simple farming and tank build.No one wants to make it and those who have that build feel bad and wants to make katana katana katana.
     
  11. Lucifere

    Lucifere Angel of Rebellion Elite Member

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    yeah specially sudokus xD
     
  12. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    A moment of silence for katana...
     
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  13. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    1M damage with such condition...
    it's easy to get the counter but when u r in party...

    YES!! COUNTER IT!! (suddenly a party member tumble the boss)

    . . . . . .

    What i ment by over-buff is with 2H and BG
     
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    TBH.........KATANA...............SILENCE........ RIP
     
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    Lol the thing about zantei is that it requires timing unlike the other skills that you can spam the living sh8 outta them. Dont you think they deserve that amount of damage? And obviously since all the other classes are getting upgrades, katana should have some too.
     
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    1.) You need to use tenryu a few times before using zantei again to do more dmg as tenryu zannou gets more dmg from tenryu stacks. My problem is not with that but its the duration 30seconds is still too low honestly and it promotes you to spam coz of it. I use maga to reset the timer instead of zantei. It doesnt need you to parry and its damage is boosted on any stacks unlike zantei whose dmg gets lower if no stacks.
    2.) Well... yes quick draw seems good for such a 1mp spam build.
    3.) If just for stacks its possible to swift it in combo with other skills to deal quick side dmg.
    4.) Kairiki gives +25 more.

    This skill would be really good if only its duration was 60 seconds instead of 30seconds after zantei/maga. Right now its just mindless spam to reach 4stacks before timer runs out which runs out really quick if you are trying to survive and dodge all enemy aoes/ getting stunned by them. For some bosses it might even be nigh impossible to reach 4.
     
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  17. Cella [Yurie ♥]

    Cella [Yurie ♥] Elite Member Elite Member

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    I wish the skill don't produce any proration instead..
     
  18. P y r o.

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    If the skill doesnt prorate , then what is the meaning of life xD
     
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    I don't really want to defend this skill but...
    since he ask for it, I'll try to change your mind! owo)b

    1. As someone already mentioned: Quick Draw. This should take care half of MP cost problem of Tenryu-Maga-Zantei spam.
    2. Kairiki isn't just a pitiful amount! 100 is decent for a low damage weapon like Katana, and it also gives +25 AMPR which will take care the other half of MP cost problem.
    3. Try looking at Tenryu from different point of view, not everything have to be a dps. As annoying Tenryu could be, this skills allow you to actually spam 2 second invincibility. No need to worry about maximum stack if your focus is to block everything.
    4. Kairiki burn your HP? Doesn't matter when you need no HP. With Tenryu's invincibility, Maga's survive with 1 HP, Zantei's block damage, and Kairiki + Shukuchi's AMPR, you should be immortal so no more dodging.

    It's just a matter of changing the way we play the class...
     
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  20. Laxus

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    Woah!
    what about DMG and what if boss tumble me or my pt member tumble boss???????.xD
     

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