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Regarding Unsheath% and unsheath Non%

Discussion in 'Katana' started by Azliph, May 4, 2019.

  1. Azliph

    Azliph Well-Known Member

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    Whats the difference between this 2 ?
    And does it affect one another or 2 seperate things?
     
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    Yunan Not Enough Salt Elite Member

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    flat unsheathe acts like atk stat for unsheathe attacks. Unsheathe % is a modifier which multiply your base damage
     
  3. Azliph

    Azliph Well-Known Member

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    Hm
    Hmmmm so its 2 different things?
    As in it doesnt effect one another or it does o.o?
    Like I am having 130% unsheath atk but 0 unsheath atk
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Unsheathe% will mostly always be better

    Final Damage (Physical skills) = (Base Damage (Auto attacks/Physical skills) - DEF + flat Unsheathe Attack [IF the skill is Unsheathe] + Skill Constant) * Skill Multiplier * Total crit damage/100 [IF you Crit] * (1 + Unsheathe Attack%/100) [IF the skill is Unsheathe] * RNG Stability/100 * Total Element Boost/100 * Current Physical Proration/100 * (1 + sum of all Skill Modifiers/100) [IF the skill is affected] * (1 + Short/Long Range Damage/100 [depending on the attack used])

    Unsheathe% is closer to final dmg
     
  5. Azliph

    Azliph Well-Known Member

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    So it is ok to have 0 unsheath atk and 130% unsheath atk o.o
     
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    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    Yep. Base unsheathe atk is 100
    If u have 30% unsheathe through gear xstals etc and not that other 100%. It just means that 100% is the base. Just depends what ur viewing the stats on
     
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    Ok thx alot owo
     
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    Screenshot_20190504-154535_Chrome.jpg this is without nothing equipped. Just means the base is 100% which is just like 100k x1.
    If 130% the 100k dmg is now 130k
     
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    Ok thx owo
     
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    flat unsheathe adds to your atk like a skill constant.
    % unsheathe multiplies the final damage, like critical damage does.
    this includes the flat unsheathe bonus, which makes 'unsheathe attack' the only stat where + is calculated before %.
     
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    Is having high unsheathe % useful in Nm/Ulti mode?
     
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    depends, flat unseathe could be more useful if the boss defense is so high
     
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    Thank you very much
     
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    Thx owo
     
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    A bit out of topic but have anyone tested cdmg(gained from devil circlet) vs unsheathe(like top hat) using modestia ktn.The negative crit from add shouldnt affect since ktn has +100 crit
     
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    Unsheathe Attack only for First Attack ??
     
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    For most weapons yes. Katana's auto attack is always unsheathe and most of the offensive skills like Tenryu Ransei.
     
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    first attack, immediate attack after Evasion and Guard, Evasion Attack with daggers (replaces immediate follow-up attack), Shukuchi, all katana auto-attacks, most katana skills, Charging Slash and Enchant Sword.
     
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    All skill katana Attack Is unsheat ?
     
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    No, garyou isnt
     

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