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Research On Best Stat Distribution For Katana

Discussion in 'Toram Online Class Discussions' started by SleepyWickedAngel, Jan 3, 2018.

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What is your opinion after reading?

  1. There isn't only one best way to build

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  2. There is a build that overpowers other builds

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  3. The research was helpful

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  1. SleepyWickedAngel

    SleepyWickedAngel Member

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    Please understand that I had not posted on the forum before but I am not new to Toram Online. Lately me and my boyfriend (we are both real nerds, legitally) had a research on the best stat for katana, since we doubted if full STR was the best stat distribution as the popular YouTubers preferred. Please go on to see the details and I sincerely wish the result would help.

    The research was done via the stat calculator on coryn club website, and the result was taken by the following formula:
    Result Power = ATK × Critical damage%
    The result refers to the strength of your critical hit. We notify that the distribution with best result we get might not be the idealistic distribution for everyone, due to following occasions:
    • When certain skill deals damage depending on not only atk and critical damage multiplier, but also specific conditions that I did not know.
    • When you use different gears than mine and having low critical rate, you might want to distribute some stat point to CRT.
    • I only researched limited pairs of stat distribution method, not every single possiblity of stat distribution. So you can possibly find a slightly better distribution method than the best one in my results.
    • The critical rate in result was only throrical, the real counts of critical hit in a battle may vary due to other conditions.
    • We may soon research about results with different gears.
    We had done this research at certain conditions, so the result is more accurate to ones who meet a most similar condition:
    • Character level was 129
    • Armour was critical 7,14,14,14
    • Additional gear Gothic hat (critical rate+14)
    • Bushido and two-handed skills at level 10
    The numbers in sub lists refer to stat distribution, result power, stability

    When Katana has C7141414(Full crit)
    Your critical rate: 97%
    • Full DEX+90STR, 3705.92, 93%
    • Full STR+90DEX, 3721.38, 100%
    • 150STR+195DEX, 3725.04, 96%
    • 195STR+150DEX, 3733.72, 98%
    When katana has A7C141414
    Your critical rate: 97%
    • 150STR+195DEX, 3820.80, 96%
    • 195STR+150DEX, 3824.30, 98%
    When katana has A7D7CD14
    Your critical rate: 79%
    • Full DEX+90STR, 3934.07, 94%
    • 150STR+195DEX, 3936.00, 96%
    When katana has A7S7CD14
    Your critical rate: 79%
    • Full STR+90DEX, 3951.99, 100%
    • 195STR+150DEX, 3929.42, 99%
    When katana has A7CD7CD14
    Your critical rate: 79%
    • Full STR+90DEX, 3959.93, 100%
    • 195STR+150DEX, 3973.15, 98%
    Under the condition listed earlier, using A7CD7CD14 katana with stat distribution as 195STR+150DEX will be the ideal choice for highest damage
    Thank you for reading, I'm going to hospital to heal my hands which were injured from typing:biblethump:

    Please join my kik public group #toramlabs if you want further discussion with us. Thank you for the possible help in advance.
     
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  2. BK

    BK The Best Elite Burger Known To Mankind Staff Member MODERATOR Elite Member Epic Member

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    I prefer 195str 175dex rest vit, but in the end i think most will be getting 255str+255dex but rn we all like our own ratios
     
  3. J.D.X.

    J.D.X. The King of Flies on His Throne of Lies Elite Member

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    I got 100 str, 50 vit....rest into dex....
     
  4. SleepyWickedAngel

    SleepyWickedAngel Member

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    Ohh. Okie it might work well with your gears
     
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  5. SleepyWickedAngel

    SleepyWickedAngel Member

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    My character has a lower level than yours so I have less stat point but our preferred stat is similar!
     
  6. P y r o.

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    Some people needed survival over damage so I kinda understand why people sometimes go for 50Vit , but Great work and Time spent on writing this :D
     
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    Nah we just vit addicts:p
     
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  8. SleepyWickedAngel

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    My bae is a dawg? xD
    ...wait a minute i am a dawg too?
     
  9. P y r o.

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    Yeah , Vit is Waifu , Waifu is Laifu xD
     
  10. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    The problem with all the people using calculators to find numbers and researching is that people ALWAYS mistake the utility of Two Handed passive coz apparently the calculator has it wrong too
    The skill actually increases ATK by 50% of critical hits NOT CDMG. Whats the difference you might ask? Well for starters with skill constants applied they actually give slightly more boost than if CDMG had +50% boost.
    ATK gets affected by enemy DEF so if you consider a boss with 1000-2000def katana would be doing no damage at all if it had a CDMG boost but thats really not true they still do above decent damage. You can test it yourself at iconos nm or york hard/nm when at low hp phase their def increases 10fold


    As I mentioned skill constants and skill multipliers affect the output of skills so for skills like zantei which have a constant of 300 would actually see a noticable difference of 2-3% more with full STR instead of DEX. Heres a video proof:-


    In the end theres really not that big of a difference as you can see between the damage output of stat ratio (barely 20-30 points of difference in damage with different stats) people are just gonna choose the stat that they prefer.
    For me personally its better to use high STR if your main skill is hasso as it never grazes so it will benefit from the increased stability the most while DEX is better for zantei at high bosses its damage output will reduce due to grazing.

    Lastly I welcome fellow nerds who are interested in such stuff. Unfortunately I do not have kik anymore but if you want we can discuss more at line if you have that :)
     
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  11. P y r o.

    P y r o. Well-Known Member

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    No , I am DIO ! xD
     
  12. SleepyWickedAngel

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    Awwh! Thank you for the effort of replying!! We deleted line but maybe soon we'll install it back for discussions. Also I've seen that hasso is going to be adjusted lower soon it's really a bad news because i use hasso when I don't have aggro and zantei when I do, I need both skills usually
     
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  13. AmatusAnathema

    AmatusAnathema Well-Known Member

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    I mean, if you're doing research might as well invest on INT

    lmao
     
  14. SleepyWickedAngel

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    We were only doing the ones that might affect atk since there's rarely people using magic spells as main skill with katana
     
  15. P y r o.

    P y r o. Well-Known Member

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    LMAO I wish Int actualy Benefits Mononofu Skills in a way
     
  16. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    Sad to say katana is legit the worst weapon ever to use magic skills with coz they only get a measly 1.5MATK per INT thats even worse than halberd's 2MATK per INT add to the fact that none of the weapon ATK gets converted to MATK either they will have the lowest possible MATK
     
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  17. SleepyWickedAngel

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    Yep I'll never use magic on katana!
     
  18. TokiXKiru

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    I prefer 255 Dex and 127 Agi
     
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  19. UfuLamb

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    this means mononofus are muscle heads :p....
    Am still waiting for "katana skills formula" tho :oops:
     
  20. mayam

    mayam Elite Member Elite Member Epic Member

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    You mean skill constants and multipliers?
    @TheXIIIthGuy Added them in his DPS guide.
     
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