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If the boss are anti-flinc/thumb/or stun
What is best build tank and the combo to against it?

 

Depends on the boss. For example, PG boss is anti-flinch and tumble, but he also moves from one side to the other often. Because of this movement, I recommend using provoke over close range combos.

However, for Nurethoth, I recommend using combos that do not inflict flinch, tumble or stun. He does not move often enough, so combos are more effective than provoke.

As an example combo I use:

Holy fist> Tempest (save)> sanctuary(swift)> astute (con)> trigger slash (con)

This combo causes no interrupts, and still creates high aggro.

If you tell me what kind of tank you're using, I can create a combo catered to you.

 

Well, I'm knuckle tank.
And I wanna ask you something.Which is the best tanker you think?

 

How good this one pulling aggro from dps spammer?
Did u must use aggro gear?
Please make a vids you take control against Dps spammer (snipe/fu/tempest)

 

Unfortunately, I do not have this tank anymore, but I can give you the rundown.

I usually use plate armor and hero scarf for additional 20% aggro. To get aggro, this one needs to use provoke spam, and use its combo to refresh gloria.

Generally speaking, I had no problem keeping aggro from snipes or FU variations unless it became a long, drawn-out fight, in which case I would need to use MP charge to get my mana back.

 

In response to KRKY's request, I am posting my Bowgun/shield tank that I never posted due to various reasons.
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Total: 120

Shot:55
5/10 power shot
10/10 moeba shot
10/10 paralyze shot
10/10 dust shot
10/10 Bullseye
10/10 Snipe

Shield:20
5/10 shield mastery
5/10 shield bash
10/10 shield cannon

Survival:15
5/10 safe rest
10/10 hp boost

Support:20
5/10 mini heal
5/10 recovery
10/10 sanctuary

Knight:10
10/10 provoke

Combo:
Moeba shot > Dust Shot (save) > Paralyze Shot (con) > Sanctuary (swift) > Snipe(save) > Shield Cannon > Bullseye

This tank creates a lot of aggro (3300 at max lvs), but its main drawback is that the combo has little disrupt ability, and is somewhat slow due to snipe casting time.

It is possible to disrupt this combo in the middle, directly after sanctuary, to allow yourself to reposition and avoid damage as you finish up from snipe onwards.

 

Aw..
Did buff like sanctuary and gloria generates aggro too?

 

yes, sanctuary generates 400 aggro + 1 aggro/2 seconds. Gloria generates 100 aggro + 1 aggro/2 seconds.

 

How did u know that? I mean that aggro numbers

 

Ive calculated and tested them. Its all in my guide to aggro under the guides section of this website.

 

Hi all~

Here is my next tank. This is my personal favorite now, as it is able to create the highest amount of aggro in the game, as well as able to survive with ease. Not only that, but at higher levels, it may be able to do a lot of damage as well, depending on how you stat it.

2h Tank:

Stats:
All vitality. When maxed, go all strength, or go all agility/intelligence/mentality.

Gear:
Weapon: Stubborn Hammer
Armor: Plate Armor
Add: Nurethoth Mask/Hero Scarf/BD Cape/Crystal Earrings
Special: Magician's Ring

Skills(needed):
Blade:
5/10 Hard Hit
10/10 Astute
5/10 Trigger Slash
10/10 Sonic Blade
10/10 Spiral Air
10/10 Sword Tempest

Magic:
10/10 MP Charge

Survival:
5/10 Safe Rest
10/10 HP Boost
1/10 Fighter's High

Support:
5/10 Mini Heal
5/10 Recovery
10/10 Sanctuary

Skills(additional):
Shot:
5/10 Shot Mastery
5/10 Long Range Mastery
10/10 Quick Draw

Survival:
10/10 Short Rest
10/10 Sober Analysis

Knight:
10/10 Provoke

Priest:
1/10 Holy Fist

Combos:
Standard
Hard Hit > Spiral Air(save) > Trigger Slash > Sanctuary(save) > Sword Tempest(swift) > Astute(save) > Sonic Blade
*requires knowledge and skill of using the combo interrupt technique after Sanctuary
http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/canceling-a-combo-video-guide.10614/

Aggro Created by default: 3000
Aggro Created with Stubborn Hammer + Plate Armor + Hero Scarf/BD Cape: 5100\

No Interrupts
Holy Fist > Trigger Slash(save) > Sanctuary(con) > Sword Tempest(con) > Astute(save) > Sonic Blade(swift)
*requires knowledge and skill of using the combo interrupt technique after Sanctuary
http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/canceling-a-combo-video-guide.10614/

Aggro Created by default: 2100
Aggro Created with Stubborn Hammer + Plate Armor + Hero Scarf/BD Cape: 3570

My Thoughts:

I would venture and say that this is one of the top tank build out there. There are several reasons for this: It creates extremely high aggro due to equips (stubborn hammer is the main factor). By using Stubborn hammer, it has a default 55% crit rating, which increases to 105% with astute buff on - Making your combo 100% accuracy spammable. It has interruption abilities through hard hit and spiral air, as well as an AOE skill (sword tempest) for holding aggro against multiple monsters. Like other vit tanks, it's HP is extremely high, so survival is not a problem. It also has nigh-infinite MP due to short rest/sober analysis and quick draw (I've rarely ever ran out of mana, in which case I will use MP Charge). Due to the huge aggro it creates per standard combo, it's much easier to work with the proration of other party members, as you can just auto attack for a good while before using another aggro combo.

As I've mentioned, it will eventually be able to do a lot of damage, as I've decided to raise the strength stat next, since my vitality is maxed. Other notable stats to raise are Intelligence for Magic Defense, Mentality for Ailment Resistance, or Agility for Attack Speed and Dodging. The reason I've chosen strength is because I feel that this tank will benefit highly from having higher damage. Faster killing of the boss is equivalent to surviving the boss easier, in my opinion. However, in the future, it may be necessary to re-stat into agility for dodging stat, or something of that nature. So keep this in mind if you wish to make this tank, or be willing to spend 8 orbs to re-stat if necessary.

 

The reason your damage is so low, assuming you're doing my combo, is because you have 3 saves being used. Once I've gotten a decent amount of strength, I'll create a dps combo. I've already created make-shift dps combos with this tank, and it's satisfactory for now.

 

Yup, we basically created the opposite, stat-wise, for our 2h's. End game, we'll be similar, but the real difference will be in how we use our skills for combos and what not.

As a side note, I'm considering adding 70 crit to this tank, to get my default crit rate to 45%. Adding astute buff to this will make me have constant crits, regardless of whatever 2h I use. This will let me use any DPS-oriented 2h I wish to use, while still ensuring all my combo skills hit.

 

I dont know why ppl still think there crit formula is correct.
Lets look at some basic facts .
256 stat points on crit rate=95%
Half would be 47.5%=128 crit stat points.
70 stat points = 29% crit rate+ 25% from astute 54% rate.
So add that to ur equation with crit gear= 35% max crit rate. So 35% will miss a lot still its just mobs atm have a low dodge rate. Just trying to help+sorry

 

I don't know where you're getting your calculations, but I've heard that 1% crit = 3.5 crit points. I'd like to know where you found that 256 crit = 95%.
Thus, 17.5 crit points = 5%
70 crit = 20%
20% + 25%(base default crit) = 45%
45% + 50%(astute buff) = 95%
no crit gear needed

 

Ok if thats the case why allow 256 points to be added on crit if u say 17.5=5% crit rate and 70=20% then 70+70=40% and add another +70=+20% more= 60% add another 70 making 280 stat points( unachievable ) =80% crit rate do you see where im leading? So by ur over calculations 256 stat points should only ever make crit rate 72% max wich if like iruna isnt fesable. So over calculating your crit rate is highly off and like its predessor iruna 256 stats =95% crit rate BK will confirm this too.