Shield mage better or arrow mage?

A ha, dont we commonly call it sneak? Xdddddddddddd

 

No it doesnt. Even if you use dual shield with heavy armor, heavy add and heavy ring.
So many people have asked me if guarding prevents ailments like really whoever it is thats spreading that rumor pls stop.

 

it doesn't prevent flinch as an ailment, only the "cast-cancel flinch" when you use magic.
any attack that does not inflict an ailment, will cancel spellcasting. this can be countered with guard and evasion.

 

Spent 2 min to confirm that Guard does not prevent "cast-cancel flinch" vs lv1 raffy in rakau

 

there are different kind of enemies attack
red and blue, will cancel your cast, guard can't prevent it but 100% ailment resist can. (unless you diededededed)
enemies normal atk, they won't flinch when you do any skill you except while you're casting magic.
Guard/evasion can prevent it (since it's a normal attack), 100% ailment resist won't.
some people call this attack as "magic flinch"

 

Here's my personal build
( Been told it's rare )
But who cares I love it lol
http://toramonline.com/index.php?threads/h-a-c-k-build-mage.38933/

 

Ty guys

 

Arrow/Dagger = Focus on Dmg

Shield = Focus on protection and survivability.

I personally use shield, i can be like a tank using P.Defense, giving stun on mini boss/boss when we don't have tank, or just to protec allies from atacks, and also give a lot of dmg with finalle.

It's all about play style, peronally, i think mage shield is better due to survivability, and have enough dmg.

A glass canon easy breaks, a diamond canon don't...

 

Shield mage ftw, all those who said arrow mage can go suck their moms titties

 

This is a bit late but may I ask how many points you put into Sneak?

 

depend on your combo, if your combo is sneak>impact(cons)>finale(smith)>closer(cons), you need level 3 sneak, sneak only hide aggro of attack skill, aggro of support and buff skill cant hide by sneak

sorry if my english is bad

 

From where exactly do you get these rumors?

 

10 points? For safety?

 

Evasion =/= guard
You can not compare both of them as similiar they are vastly different. Damage calculation ends if evasion procs while it continues if guard procs. As such guarding is still counted as taking a hit and its not gonna give you any sort of resistance towards ailments or interrupts.
They are completely seperated by the types of attacks which are qualified to be either guardable or evadeable too.
Evasion can be very useful for bosses that spam fractional attacks like lyark technician while guard is just flat out underwhelming compared to resistance stats. Guard is just not good when used with shield not just coz of that but also coz of shield canceling the base guard power of heavy armor. Those that disagree feel free to record a video and show me how it can be useful on a shield user and qualify getting it over evasion or resistance, gotta see the knockbacks and flinches being prevented by guard.

As for the on topic discussion.
Shield coz of the existence of mirror shield its possible to make evasive mage and resistive mage by imperial shield. All survival needs are fulfilled by shield.
However dagger mages are very useful too with their gimmick of 0mp throw knives. This can be a godsend if you get stuck in a party with nothing but mages. With enough sp now it is viable to learn both dagger and shield skills on a mage for different situations.
Arrows really doesnt have much going for it except the 7mp save when compared to dagger. I dont consider para shot stability as it doesnt get applied if you miss. Yes you can maybe hit more often if you go rest all dex after int but honestly its not worth it. Something all finale mages need is BULK to withstand enemy blue aoes while casting. A dead mage cant do anything. With enough magic resist and hp my mage was able to survive blue aoes in the face from meme ulti mode while casting I doubt any int>dex could do the same.

 

Like say lyark technical captain or gwaimol that target and throws aoe to non-aggro players, will evasion even proc for the non-aggro players? Iirc evasion wont proc for non-aggro tho

Btw the gimmick 0mp throwing knife may be overall slower than 2mp armbreak finale spam, just an observation unless taking gsw xdddddd. 10sp vs 21sp, pick ur poisons xdddddd

 

sugar, spice and everything nice, that's what good rumors are made of

mini heal is a cast skill and gets cancelled when hit by a normal attack while casting, but not if Guard activates.
(this happened in march)

 

How exactly slow? I can spam throw knife infinitely and then stop when I need to impact finale I am not bound by combos. Tell me a arrow mage combo that got more than 3 phys skills and still 2mp and faster than 3x throw knife and then impact finale. About evasion I am still researching on it. Gonna take more time.

Nope. Mini heal cast is not magic based meaning you cant get flinched by non ailment attacks.
If you got flinched that means the mob has innate flinch chance on its attack not 100%.
Try at a different boss.
Only if the cast time bar is yellow coloured will it indicate that the casting can be interrupted by enemy attack.