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Discussion in 'Brawler' started by kyoulin, Feb 3, 2019.

  1. kyoulin

    kyoulin Well-Known Member

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    1. what ATK should i aim for without tonfas, is anything in the range of 1700-2000 good enough? (i know they are better, but i want a more flexible build)
    2. is it STR or DEX that would give me better chariot damage? currently i have 60STR for the +12 cdmg; 35 DEX
    3. what would a high chariot look like? so far i’ve been able to do 230k-280k with no buffs
    4. is FC really that necessary if you have high ATK and 194%CD?
    5. will it matter if i change my weapon crystal from tyrant to gwaimol’s xtal if i only have 60STR, vs 35DEX?
    6. why will my rush only hit 220k maximum? regardless of the combo (1mp or imp-rush-fin) too? i’ve seen people doing 280k or so with it and idk why mine won’t.
    thanks
     
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  2. AliceYvne

    AliceYvne Elite Member Elite Member

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    1. don’t understand, if you want damage without using tonfa just go for damage xtal or gear.

    2. Chariot is Boost by AGI, not related to Dex or STR, what you need is just a mathematics calculation.

    3. Show off purpose : 600k, standard 200-300k. It’s still refer back to which mob/boss you attacking, because they got diff def and resisitant.

    4. If you got high enough critical rate, you can go for A7CD7CD17, people want 4C just because CR not enough.

    5. Mathematic solve your problem, go coryn online use the stat calculation.

    6. Your stat, skill, combo, gear, xtal, proration, mob defende, mob resisitant, party member and LUK on your Stability make the different.
     
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  3. Red_Fox

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    depends on who you are fighting.
    in some cases, physical pierce is more effective than atk.
    max AGI first. if you did, the critical damage from STR is slightly stronger than the atk from DEX, but it relies on critical rate.
    the lack of accuracy will make you graze more often, which offsets the critical damage bonus.
    since you want to be flexible, i recommend DEX, as it also increases cspd for chakra and boost your tap damage (1atk, 1matk)
    depends on who you are fighting.
    look up the formula in the skill guide, apply the math from the DPS guide and see what you could expect.
    then try it at Super Dark Mushroom to break the scores, then see what it does to Ganglef and ragequit.
    FC = Fried Chicken?
    i don't think that your critical damage has any effect on the taste.
    i'm a walking library and know every detail about every of the hundred thounsand items. of course i can give you an eloquent anwser to this "small question".
    it is: 42.

    (read the damn math and calculate your stats, or use the simulator on coryn.club)
    use it on Super Dark Mushroom and you will hit 2m ;)
     
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  4. AliceYvne

    AliceYvne Elite Member Elite Member

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    Why
    NVM I remember already..the funny mob in Sakura event.
     
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  5. kyoulin

    kyoulin Well-Known Member

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    1. my question was about ATK for a regular knuckle. what was the average ‘high’ atk before tonfas came around? 1900ATK? 2000ATK?
    2&3. thanks, my agi is maxed. i just wanted to know if my chariot is average cause i don’t want it to be low. im working on longer ranged chariots so dex came into my question
    4. i ask this because everyone suggests FC17 like it’s what’s gonna solve every problem but it drops my ATK by like 150-200 points. so is it not worse to have 1500atk and 210%cdmg rather than having 1800atk and 194%cdmg? and would that not make FC (yeah fried chicken) overly praised?
    5. i did do the math for the gwaimol and tyrant xtal, im asking because both seem to be very similar or the coryn thing itself isn’t working for me. oni horns with york (ig they cant have slots) were showing up as no difference to shaved ice with york when i should have 34 atk added. this again is because everyone recommends Gwai while Tyrant is just as good.
    6. i ask about this cause my damage is nearly the same everywhere i go except on some bosses. so i was wondering if there’s something wrong with my character
     
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  6. TokiXKiru

    TokiXKiru Well-Known Member

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    220k rush is op
     
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  7. AliceYvne

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    1. There is no such thing of average ATK in toram, it’s all up to your damage output. Some people with 1800 ATK able to deal with 300K above chariot and some can’t even reach 250K with 2500 ATK, because Critical Damage, element damage and Piecer NOT COUNT IN ATK.

    2 & 3, what you need is just a mathematic calculation and none of us here is your assistant to help you calculate the damage. There is already have a guide on the chariot damage calculation, stat calculation and formula to calculation you overall stat, use it.

    4. Again is a mathematic calculation.

    5. Recommmendationn is always recommendation, it’s not a much or need, it’s all depend on the other gear and xtal you use. I myself is using ultimate machine because I already satisfied on my damage output and I need MP to cover my combo.

    6. Then you have to go try and error, check whether the damage low is because of your combo, damage, proration issues or mob guard/defend. You need to make Apple to Apple compare, not apple to watermelon then blame on apple too small.
     
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  8. AliceYvne

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    Per hit is OP, overall 220K is normal.
     
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  9. kyoulin

    kyoulin Well-Known Member

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    ahahaha 220k was just in all not per hit but thank you guys.
    3. what i meant that i wanted to just compare by a ‘yeah that was close to my average/no that wasnt near my average, mine was higher/lower’ or so. improving is all i’m seeking to do and seeing similar damage from others is comfort.
    i wanted to hear what worked for others and possibly apply it to my character. it’s working fine for me and it’s all i cared about
    i can and will calculate my own, i didn’t want anyone else to do it for me. i never needed one cause all it was was wondering about the damage you guys have done so that i could compare it to mine. you know, hitting 275k on some random boss? 250k? yeah
    drop it. i’m still glad i got an answer.

    the question about chariot was already answered when you mentioned your normal chariots since mine falls within that range. so thank you all for your answers and the time of day, that was all i needed, sorry for any confusion.:)
     
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  10. TokiXKiru

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    Well overall 220k is good. My brawler did only 90k overall:oops:
     
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  11. kyoulin

    kyoulin Well-Known Member

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    it’s okay!
    at a point my triple kick was still more reliable than rush was :D. but keep pushin!
    220k is lucky for me, my normal ones are anywhere between 120-190k and definitely not super high. it may have been the boss you used it against as well, or just your weapon refinement or so.
    regardless don’t lose hope, i still haven’t!
     
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    Nice damage ;):eek:
     
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